Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 06:41 PM
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Re: Folding is dumb
I am now realizing this.
I goofed. Calling is certainly better than folding.
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 10:08 AM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Interesting No Limit Question
1 in 3 is purely mathematical.
Higher than that is intuitive.
I find it odd that a "good player" would make a bet that is pricing "IN" the flush draw if he doesn't hold the J...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 10:00 AM
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Replies: 465
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Re: The Call is Correct. Expection = +$400
What about a small or moderate bet on the river assuming you no longer hold the nuts.
What bet is too large to call a "freeroller"? Notice that if he makes a raise that lays you the exact odds...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 09:40 AM
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Replies: 465
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Re: The Call is Correct. Expection = +$400
I'm still saying FOLD.
I just said that calling wouldn't surprise me. I think calling leads to more complexities that people are bothering to figure into their calculations.
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 09:33 AM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Let me clarify something.
Thanks for the well thought out response.
I wasn't questioning how often he had the J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, I was questioning why he would only reraise with the bare J...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 09:27 AM
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Re: The Call is Correct. Expection = +$400
You havent' included a couple of scenarions that while ulikely are entirely possible.
1)J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif is held by the flush draw behind you, and he raises a large ammount that is...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 09:09 AM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Interesting No Limit Question
Exactly the AJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif was just a response to people that misread the post and said:
1) How do we know YOU don't have the J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
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2) If Mr....
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 09:00 AM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Folding the Nuts
First of all, I said you KNOW this opponent and you KNOW he has AK. He isn't pushing with just a flush draw.
This was a fictitious scenerio designed to illustrate a point. That point is that...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 08:43 AM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Folding the Nuts
I should have stated that you have at least as much money as your opponent. I'm sure most people assumed this.
If you KNOW your opponent has AK, you can't call here.
You seem to have a...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-09-2004, 08:34 AM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Let me clarify something.
Where did you come up with the fact that he will only raise you all-in with the bare J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 1/3 of the time?
A good player will realize the situation and put you to a...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 10:36 PM
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Replies: 465
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Re: IF.....
If on the turn he pushes with the J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif:
Anyone with a straight cannot beat him regardless of the river.
Anyone without a straight, would be making a mistake by...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 09:17 PM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Interesting No Limit Question
Hypothetical Scenario :
You raise, and another player moves all in. He shows you the J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif but not the other card.
You can now call getting potentially freerolled,...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 09:11 PM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Let me clarify something.
What if the bare J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif raises all in and you fold? You just pissed away 1400 to fold a hand that couldn't lose.
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 08:47 PM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Interesting No Limit Question
On the turn you hold the nuts.
The nuts on the turn is not a very powerful hand unless it contains the J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
That's what I've been saying all along.
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 08:42 PM
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Replies: 465
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Folding the Nuts
You are playing NL.
You are headsup on the flop with an opponent you know well.
Flop: Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif J /images/graemlins/heart.gif T /images/graemlins/club.gif
You have A...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 08:32 PM
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Replies: 465
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 08:30 PM
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 01:42 PM
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Replies: 465
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I\'m going to bed
I've argued enough for one day.
I'm still convinced that it's a fold. One more thing - if you call and button calls this opens up a whole 'nother can of worms on the river depending on what...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 01:32 PM
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Replies: 465
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Re: ANOTHER SITUATION
River diamond.
Checked to button who bets 1/5th of pot.
What's your new definition of almost?
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 01:20 PM
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Replies: 465
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 01:17 PM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Let me clarify something.
If you're going to fold to a raise which could easily be made by the bare Jd, or call a raise by Jdxd because of "current" pot odds yet are getting freerolled, yes a call can be wrong.
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 01:14 PM
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Replies: 465
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ANOTHER SITUATION
No one has the Jd.
You call, button calls.
River: diamond, or board pairs.
Now what?
Now you have to determine the frequency in which each player will bluff, and decide whether or not to...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 01:08 PM
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Replies: 465
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Re: I now have....
Okay.
We're in the "Raise is for flippin idiots Camp" /images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 01:06 PM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Interesting No Limit Question
Your odds that he has another diamond are based on random card distribution and don't take into account the fact that he would be much more likely to play a suited hand that contains a jack than...
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Forum: Televised Poker
10-08-2004, 01:01 PM
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Replies: 465
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Re: Sticking to my guns
My question is this:
Can the Jd make a raise of a specific size that makes both calling the bet and calling the raise correct as separate events, but incorrect cumulatively?
Taking into account...
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