WSOP Final Table: "Official" News, Results, and Discussion

[Sightless]

poor Mike Matusow

[KneeCo]

gg Matusow

[Russ McGinley]

donkeys alwasy draw

[Bulldog]

"The audience is giving Mike an applause" /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[BlackAces]

Mike's out.

Bet 600K on a 5-3-2 flop, Dannenmann pushed, Mike called with TT. Steve flipped AJo. 4 on the turn gave him a straight, Mike couldn't catch on the river to tie.

[JohnnyFX]

That sucked for Matusow. Got him all-in way ahead and got sucked out by a gutshot.

[InAPipeDream]

10 10 against AJ, details coming, but Steve Danneman catches a straight w/ 2345.

[Uglyowl]

I am going to have a heart attack with Phil's yelling.. Very quiet and trying to listen to screaming.

[tacklebox]

Yep, everyone else sucks dog balls. It was a good play..[censored] happens.

[Mano]

Matasow's opponent went all in on a 2 3 5r flop, Matasow called with pocket ten's. Opponent showed AJo. 4 on turn, river no help, Matasow gone.

[chopstick]

Date / Time: 2005-07-15 18:29:00
Title: Mike Matusow Eliminated in 9th Place ($1,000,000)
Log: Hand 28 - Daniel Bergsdorf has the button in seat 4, Dannenmann raises to $300,000, and Matusow calls from the small blind. The flop comes 5s-3s-2c, Matusow bets $600,000, and Dannenmann immediately says, "All in." Matusow stops the action to study his opponent. He stands up, leaning out over the table to get a good look at his opponent before calling. Dannenmann shows As-Jc, while Matusow has pocket tens (10d-10c). Dannenmann was semi-bluffing with overcards, and he'll need to catch a four, a jack, or an ace to win the pot.


The turn card is the 4h, and Dannenmann makes a five-high straight to take a commanding lead in this hand. Matusow will need to catch a six or an eight to survive with a straight on the board.


The river card is a 9, and Mike Matusow is eliminated in ninth place, earning $1,000,000.


He walks over to Mark Seif in the crowd, who comforts him, and then the players from the final table all come over to shake his hand. Matusow is composed, but clearly disappointed. He's keeping his composure very well, and there are no outbursts or anger. Matusow is stunned,

[InAPipeDream]

Hand 28 - Daniel Bergsdorf has the button in seat 4, Dannenmann raises to $300,000, and Matusow calls from the small blind. The flop comes 5s-3s-2c, Matusow bets $600,000, and Dannenmann immediately says, "All in." Matusow stops the action to study his opponent. He stands up, leaning out over the table to get a good look at his opponent before calling. Dannenmann shows As-Jc, while Matusow has pocket tens (10d-10c). Dannenmann was semi-bluffing with overcards, and he'll need to catch a four, a jack, or an ace to win the pot.

The turn card is the 4h, and Dannenmann makes a five-high straight to take a commanding lead in this hand. Matusow will need to catch a six or an eight to survive with a straight on the board.

The river card is a 9, and Mike Matusow is eliminated in ninth place, earning $1,000,000.

He walks over to Mark Seif in the crowd, who comforts him, and then the players from the final table all come over to shake his hand. Matusow is composed, but clearly disappointed. He's keeping his composure very well, and there are no outbursts or anger. Matusow is stunned

[m1illion]

no one can say the mouth ever melted down.
horrible beat

[Chipr777]

Steve raises to $300,000 from second position, and Mike Matusow calls from small blind. Aaron folds from the big blind. The flop comes 5-3-2. Mike bets $600,000 and Steve re-raises all in. Mike calls and shows 10-10. Steve shows As-J. The turn card is 4 giving Steve a straight. Mike needs ace or six for a tie. The river is 9, and Mike Matusow is eliminated in 9th place. He wins $1 million.

[fnurt]

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no one can say the mouth ever melted down.
horrible beat

[/ QUOTE ]

10 outs twice is a horrible beat? Am I missing something?

[TheGame1020]

Man, thats just wrong. I feel bad for the guy and so does Phil Hellmuth. LOL. GL Mike.

[La Brujita]

Jeez it was 60-40 I was thinking the same thing!!!!

[m1illion]

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no one can say the mouth ever melted down.
horrible beat

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10 outs twice is a horrible beat? Am I missing something?

[/ QUOTE ]
er 3-1 underdog miss that?

[Bulldog]

Get over it, already! It wasn't that bad a beat:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1085348
pokenum -h as jc - td tc -- 5s 3s 2c
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 5s 3s 2c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Jc 384 38.79 579 58.48 27 2.73 0.402
Tc Td 579 58.48 384 38.79 27 2.73 0.598

[m bozeman]

YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

[tacklebox]

Where will MM be in 30 minutes?

[dontcrack]

[ QUOTE ]
That sucked for Matusow. Got him all-in way ahead and got sucked out by a gutshot.

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"way ahead" I don't know about that. It was an awful beat but the guy had lots of outs. It just happens that the gutterball came.

[SumZero]

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no one can say the mouth ever melted down.
horrible beat

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10 outs twice is a horrible beat? Am I missing something

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Indeed. Phil is acting like the guy need a runner-runner. At the time of the all-in Mike was only 59.8% likely to win. He's a favorite, but it is much closer to a coin-flip than a horrible beat.

[chopstick]

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Get over it, already! It wasn't that bad a beat:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1085348
pokenum -h as jc - td tc -- 5s 3s 2c
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 5s 3s 2c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Jc 384 38.79 579 58.48 27 2.73 0.402
Tc Td 579 58.48 384 38.79 27 2.73 0.598

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The post-flop is actually an improvement from pre-flop for MM, though not much changed:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=83356
pokenum -h as jc - td tc
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Jc 732751 42.79 973088 56.83 6465 0.38 0.430
Tc Td 973088 56.83 732751 42.79 6465 0.38 0.570

[hobbsinholland]

well he didn't have a blow up, he lost a couple of tough pots, but I do have a new found respect for this guy. Was not a fan of the guy before the ME, but he has grown on me. I still think he is tool, but he has skills and he is funny and can be self depricating. cant knock that.

well done.

[chopstick]

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Where will MM be in 30 minutes?

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Being interviewed. What about you?

[Mason Hellmuth]

[ QUOTE ]
Matusow is composed, but clearly disappointed. He's keeping his composure very well, and there are no outbursts or anger. EVERYONE is stunned.

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FYP

[InAPipeDream]

Forget your stats, it WAS a bad beat...Matusow played great...who would go in w/ an A and low kicker THAT late? STUPID!!!!!

[Chipr777]

I second that. Was a race to begin with and just over 60-40 after the flop.

[Bulldog]

"All the big game players at the Bellagio were hoping Mike would win"

"I feel like I just lost two million dollars"

"jokingly" (wink)

[fnurt]

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no one can say the mouth ever melted down.
horrible beat

[/ QUOTE ]
10 outs twice is a horrible beat? Am I missing something

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Indeed. Phil is acting like the guy need a runner-runner. At the time of the all-in Mike was only 59.8% likely to win. He's a favorite, but it is much closer to a coin-flip than a horrible beat.

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And more to the point, it was AJ that pushed, so I'd say 10 outs twice + folding equity is a pretty strong bet.

[Russ McGinley]

Yeah lets listen to Comic Book Guy talk about how disgusting the beat was.

[fnurt]

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Forget your stats, it WAS a bad beat...Matusow played great...who would go in w/ an A and low kicker THAT late? STUPID!!!!!

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God bless this forum.

[Guernica4000]

YES!!!

The MOUTH is gone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fnurt]

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no one can say the mouth ever melted down.
horrible beat

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10 outs twice is a horrible beat? Am I missing something?

[/ QUOTE ]
er 3-1 underdog miss that?

[/ QUOTE ]

Apparently I missed you making it up, yes.

[ziggy_m]

Crap. Now who am I gonna root for?

Guess I'll root for the short stack...

[Chipr777]

Where did you place in the ME?

[m1illion]

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YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

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all donkeys remain let's celebrate

[BlackAces]

Is it me, or do the announcers not really care about the action anymore now that Mike's out?

[Kevmath]

Did you have a chance to talk to Jack Affel about the Matusow/Sheikram spat?

[Salva135]

You're all missing the point. If they had been all-in preflop, it would have been a rough way for TT to lose to AJ, but we would have accepted it as a lost coin-flip. The point is that the action was post-flop, Dannenman made a stupid bluff, Matusow made an amazing read for his tournament life, and still went down. The fact that he outplayed his opponent and still lost is what makes this a bad beat, not the percentages.

[m1illion]

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Is it me, or do the announcers not really care about the action anymore now that Mike's out?

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what's left to care about. which internet suck out will win?

[touchfaith]

[ QUOTE ]
Is it me, or do the announcers not really care about the action anymore now that Mike's out?

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[m1illion]

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You're all missing the point. If they had been all-in preflop, it would have been a rough way for TT to lose to AJ, but we would have accepted it as a lost coin-flip. The point is that the action was post-flop, Dannenman made a stupid bluff, Matusow made an amazing read for his tournament life, and still went down. The fact that he outplayed his opponent and still lost is what makes this a bad beat, not the percentages.

[/ QUOTE ]

dude don't try and school this group of poker sophisticates , they have all knowledge at their fingertips. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Chipr777]

I havn't talked with him yet. I tried to call his cell again but it was off. I shouldv'e tried this afternoon but forgot to call. I'll chat with him in a couple days when he gets back to Tunica. Send me a PM to remind me and when I find out I'll sent the details back to you.

[jcx]

[ QUOTE ]
"All the big game players at the Bellagio were hoping Mike would win"

"I feel like I just lost two million dollars"


"jokingly" (wink)

[/ QUOTE ]

The fact that no well known pros remain is most certainly lamentable to the big money players as it is likely most of this huge final table payday will be leaving town.

[ligastar]

Go to the home page of ESPN.com. Very cool poker montage to this year's WSOP (click on Poker Faces on the home page).

Greg H.

[bugstud]

up next... Jen Harman sings Christmas carols.


wow

[dontcrack]

[ QUOTE ]
You're all missing the point. If they had been all-in preflop, it would have been a rough way for TT to lose to AJ, but we would have accepted it as a lost coin-flip. The point is that the action was post-flop, Dannenman made a stupid bluff, Matusow made an amazing read for his tournament life, and still went down. The fact that he outplayed his opponent and still lost is what makes this a bad beat, not the percentages.

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Why was the read so amazing? It is almost an instant call with that board. If you would not call an all-in bet with TT when you DO NOT flop a set on that board then I can't imagine too many other boards when you would call an all-in bet.

It was a bad bluff and a bad beat but geez, the guy had a lot of outs. Most would not make that play BUT he did and it worked out. It's not like he caught a 2 or 3 outer.

[JTrout]

Phil and Jen sound like a bad SNL skit.
Good times.

[72off]

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Phil and Jen sound like a bad SNL skit.
Good times.

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Case in point:

Phil & Jen: "Puggy! Puggy! Puggy! Play us a song"

Puggy: "Uh...how about I tell you about the logo in the side of my bus?"

Phil: "Ok!"

This is great.

[Russ McGinley]

Puggy = Cotton Hill

[detroitplayer]

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Phil and Jen sound like a bad SNL skit.
Good times.

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Case in point:

Phil & Jen: "Puggy! Puggy! Puggy! Play us a song"

Puggy: "Uh...how about I tell you about the logo in the side of my bus?"

Phil: "Ok!"

This is great.

[/ QUOTE ]

The way Phil said "okay?!???" was priceless.

[Mason Hellmuth]

is so 1.4

[Homer]

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That sucked for Matusow. Got him all-in way ahead and got sucked out by a gutshot.

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60/40 is not way ahead.

[KneeCo]

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Phil and Jen sound like a bad SNL skit.
Good times.

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As opposed to all those good SNL skits?

[Bulldog]

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Phil and Jen sound like a bad SNL skit.
Good times.

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Case in point:

Phil & Jen: "Puggy! Puggy! Puggy! Play us a song"

Puggy: "Uh...how about I tell you about the logo in the side of my bus?"

Phil: "Ok!"

This is great.

[/ QUOTE ]

Highlight of the webcast so far, no doubt.

If I was Jen, I would've punched Phil six times by now.

Phil: "What are the blinds?"
Jen: "20,000 ant--"
Phil (interrupting): "60,000 and 120,000 blinds!"

Phil: "blah blah blah"
Jen: "We have a pot, 200,000 bet by--"
Phil (interrupting): "200,000 bet by so-and-so, raised to 600,000 by whats-his-name..."

And Dude, let the Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif J /images/graemlins/heart.gif go. Raymer is probably over it already but Phil is still on it. PH99 fighting for injustices all over the world!

[Kevmath]

Minh Ly v Matusow, Ly tossed from the press conference. Steel cage match at the B?

[krimson]

there was also this one point where Jen said something and phil just went

"... yeeeaah, blah blah blah blah blah"

[-Skeme-]

World Wide Wrestling Federation. That's classic.

[touchfaith]

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Minh Ly v Matusow, Ly tossed from the press conference. Steel cage match at the B?

[/ QUOTE ]

ESPN is approaching them about prime time hot dog eating contest.

[Russ McGinley]

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World Wide Wrestling Federation. That's classic.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm waiting for the Bruno Sammartino run-in.

[andyfox]

1.Joseph Hachem $6.3 million
2.Andrew Black $10.55 million
3.Tex Barch $9.1 million
4.Daniel Bergsdorf $4.59 million
5.Aaron Kanter $11.27 million
6.Brad Kondracki $1.97 million
7.Steve Dannenmann $5.81 million
8.Scott Lazar $6.74 million

I'm still sticking with my man Lazar.

[m1illion]

Aaron Kantet has destiny written all over him

[72off]

"Ireland raised it...here comes Sweden."

Phil, there's 8 of them, learn their names. I know they're "internet donkeys", but come on.

[Delta00]

Can someone help me understand what Negreanu and Hellmuth were just talking about? I missed the action and I beleive, one guy raised early to 300k, a flat call then the big blind re-raised. They were saying they KNEW the caller would fold easily and if he had a read that the original raiser was weak then the whole pot would be the re-raiser. Am I screwed up somewhere? It sounds like some really interesting information....

[Bulldog]

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Phil and Jen sound like a bad SNL skit.
Good times.

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As opposed to all those good SNL skits?

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"Burt Reynolds?"
"That's not my name."
"Okay, Turd Ferguson."
"Yeah, what'd ya want?"
"You buzzed in."
"No I didn't."
"Yes, you did."
"Yeah well, that's your opinion."

"This is the sound a doggy makes. Mr. Connery?"
"Moooooooooo."
"No."
"Well, that's the sound your mother made last night! Ah ha ha ha ha ha!"
"That's not necessary!"

"We would've accepted 'bow wow' or 'ruff'."
"Ahhh, 'rough', just the way your mother likes it!"
"That was way out of line. Mr. Reynolds, what are you doing?"
"I found this backstage, oversized hat, 'sfunny."
"No it's not!"
"Sure it is. It's funny, 'cause it's bigger than a normal hat."

[fnurt]

I'm still not sure why it's a bad bluff when I can make the guy risk his tournament life and I have a 40% chance to win even if I get called. I mean, if I have to be over a 50% favorite before I can bluff, then it wouldn't be a bluff any more.

[m1illion]

Phil "foreigners" Hellmuth

[James Lang]

"Internet speed high access"

Classic

[2+2 wannabe]

i love daniel's pimping himself on the broadcast

[bones]

I think Phil just said he wasn't a dog to Daniel in limit hold em.

Has he read his own book?

[2+2 wannabe]

as an aside - this prize money is really flat until the top 2

[dontcrack]

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I think Phil just said he wasn't a dog to Daniel in limit hold em.

Has he read his own book?

[/ QUOTE ]

Jesus Christmas, who the eff is that in your avitar? I need her website addy NOW!!!!!!!!

[Bulldog]

From a percentage standpoint, it is flat. For someone like a Brad Kondracki, the difference between, say 8th and 6th, doesn't seem all too flat right now. These are real dollars we are talking about, and a lot of them.

[2+2 wannabe]

[ QUOTE ]
From a percentage standpoint, it is flat. For someone like a Brad Kondracki, the difference between, say 8th and 6th, doesn't seem all too flat right now. These are real dollars we are talking about, and a lot of them.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah i agree - it just looks (percentage wise) kind of weird

[tacklebox]

[/ QUOTE ]

"Burt Reynolds?"
"That's not my name."
"Okay, Turd Ferguson."
"Yeah, what'd ya want?"
"You buzzed in."
"No I didn't."
"Yes, you did."
"Yeah well, that's your opinion."

"This is the sound a doggy makes. Mr. Connery?"
"Moooooooooo."
"No."
"Well, that's the sound your mother made last night! Ah ha ha ha ha ha!"
"That's not necessary!"

"We would've accepted 'bow wow' or 'ruff'."
"Ahhh, 'rough', just the way your mother likes it!"
"That was way out of line. Mr. Reynolds, what are you doing?"
"I found this backstage, oversized hat, 'sfunny."
"No it's not!"
"Sure it is. It's funny, 'cause it's bigger than a normal hat."

[/ QUOTE ]

Well played.

[TimTimSalabim]

It sounds like Daniel and Phil's microphones are turned up to a 10, whereas the guest mic is about a 2.

[Russ McGinley]

I think this guy is trying to trick Hellmuth into wearing a puffy shirt on Leno.

[willie]

meh, i for one am really enjoying helmuth's commentary.

[bones]

Vida Guerra (http://images.google.com/images?q=vida%20guerra&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wi)

[-Skeme-]

GG.

[xxx]

down to 7

[dontcrack]

[ QUOTE ]
Vida Guerra (http://images.google.com/images?q=vida%20guerra&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wi)

[/ QUOTE ]

Thank you sir..god bless you!!!!

[2+2 wannabe]

am i the only one that loves that daniel's playing barry in an hour and is commentating the final table until then?

[TimTimSalabim]

Hellmuth gives personal finance advice too... gotta love that.

[-Skeme-]

That Kandracki kid sounded like an idiot.

[jacki]

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It sounds like Daniel and Phil's microphones are turned up to a 10, whereas the guest mic is about a 2.

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Hellmuth's is at 11

[dontcrack]

Bones-

She is a friggin STAR!!!!

[2+2 wannabe]

[ QUOTE ]
That Kandracki kid sounded like an idiot.

[/ QUOTE ]

the guy just won 1.15M! i can't imagine what i'd say/feel/look like after that

[Guruman]

i'm rootin for tex.

go local. go Dallas. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[goofball]

[ QUOTE ]
The Gutshot interface of the virtual table looks pretty good. They are currently doing some test hands. link - you may need to register for that link to work!

http://www.gutshotbank.com/gutshot/finaltable.jsp?auth=true

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm having troube with teh applett. I get it to load, but then it just sits there not showing hands and showing everyone's chip counts at zero.

[kt421]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
The Gutshot interface of the virtual table looks pretty good. They are currently doing some test hands. link - you may need to register for that link to work!

http://www.gutshotbank.com/gutshot/finaltable.jsp?auth=true

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm having troube with teh applett. I get it to load, but then it just sits there not showing hands and showing everyone's chip counts at zero.

[/ QUOTE ]

I refreshed, then waited a bit, and it worked.

[TimTimSalabim]

[ QUOTE ]
Bones-

She is a friggin STAR!!!!

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[ QUOTE ]

Actress - filmography
(In Production) (2000s)

Dorm Daze 2 (2006) (filming) .... Violet


Fake Preacher (2005) (V)
Writer's Block (2003) .... Muse



Filmography as: Actress, Notable TV Guest Appearances

Notable TV Guest Appearances

"Chappelle's Show" playing "Stripper" (uncredited) (episode # 2.3) 4 February 2004
"Chappelle's Show" playing "Dancer" (uncredited) (episode # 1.10) 26 March 2003


[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm... can't wait to see her in "Dorm Daze 2". Hope I'm not too lost if I haven't seen part 1.

[-Skeme-]

[ QUOTE ]
the guy just won 1.15M! i can't imagine what i'd say/feel/look like after that

[/ QUOTE ]

It definitely wouldn't be, "hehehehehe."

[LethalRose]

phil keeps interrupting dave, hilarious.

[Hold'me]

Jesus, can Phil let David say one damn thing without talking over him? ROFL.

[CrazyEyez]

[ QUOTE ]
Jesus, can Phil let David say one damn thing without talking over him? ROFL.

[/ QUOTE ]

Holy sh!t Dave just got a whole sentence in. What a suckout.

[Bulldog]

Excuse me, Phil, there is a tournament going on...

[KneeCo]

Man, could Helmuth and co. care any less about the action after Matusow is out?

After such a great WSOP, this final table is such a let down.
I hope that we get some action and maybe a nice see-saw heads up match.

[TimTimSalabim]

[ QUOTE ]
Jesus, can Phil let anyone say one damn thing without talking over him? ROFL.

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FYP

[Smarty]

Possibly quote of the night: "You love the Dom"

[BlackAces]

Oh my God, Phil is in full-on pimp mode. And David can't get a word in.

[Russ McGinley]

Poker players definitely need to avoid that dangerous trap of women. Good call, Phil.

[Bulldog]

...and now you noticed and scared my dog AGAIN.

[Hold'me]

Phil loves to get his club on, ya'll know. Btw a quick plug: www.camphellmuth.com. (http://www.camphellmuth.com.) lol.

[-Skeme-]

[ QUOTE ]
Possibly quote of the night: "You love the Dom"

[/ QUOTE ]

Either that or, "I like the mic."

[kt421]

Phil just interrupted Williams 4 times in about a minute. It was amazing. I laughed out loud the third one, and the fourth about laid me out.

[bones]

Phil is pwning everyone. This is possibly the funniest broadcast that I've ever heard.

[tacklebox]

It's unbelievable how much he loves his voice.

[Bulldog]

[ QUOTE ]
Possibly quote of the night: "You love the Dom"

[/ QUOTE ]

That and "how about I tell you about the logo on the side of my bus" have been added to my 2+2 repertoire so far...

[xxx]

wow, talking about a bad beat sending one of the players to a monestary !

[KneeCo]

anyone know the name of that documentary?

[jacki]

yeah, this irish?/british? guy is great

[Sightless]

[ QUOTE ]
yeah, this irish?/british? guy is great

[/ QUOTE ]
yup

[tacklebox]

Phil: What was the name of that documentary?
Irish Dude: It was called th...
Phil: I remember a hand with blah, blah, blah.....

[72off]

Black is killing these guys. Those two cashes in short handed NL are really coming in handy. Unless he does something stupid, he should get to the final two. Went from 2 million, to 13 last night, before losing 5. Now he must be back up 13 or 14 million.

[DVO]

From reading the Cardplayer hand commentary, I get the inevitable sense of an A. Black victory.

Every time I look up, he's blowing people out of pots.

After bluffing Ivey and Raymer out pre-flop with junk like A2 yesterday, it's hard for me NOT to believe.

He's got a great story too. Young Irish guy attacks 1997 ME with overpowering aggression, implodes against Unger, goes into Buddhist hibernation, and remerges in 2005 to win the whole thing...

It all fits.

[CrazyEyez]

Phil (smiling): Like you guys would say, I fancy his play. <thinks he's funny>

Other dude: ...............

[72off]

[ QUOTE ]
anyone know the name of that documentary?

[/ QUOTE ]

Apparently it's called "Million Dollar Deal".

[bones]

Wow. Hand analysis without hearing "he's picked up a real hand..." or the phrase "power poker." I really like this.

[Muck off]

Possibly the phrase applies to Dubliner Andy Black, who played a starring role in the 1998 television documentary Million Dollar Deal. Narrated by John Hurt, the programme followed the fortunes of a group of English and Irish players in that year’s World Series of Poker
pulled from cardplayer

[tacklebox]

Really good info. with DanN and DavidW.

[Bulldog]

Yes, this is excellent. Inside the mind of the world-class player within the hand and within the tournament, along with analysis about a player's style. Wouldn't TV poker be better this way? Just give me the hole cam info at the conclusion of the hand.

[DVO]

Hand 55 - Steve Dannenmann has the button in seat 8, he raises to $400,000, Lazar calls, and Hachem raises to $2,000,000. Dannenmann immediately says, "All in," and Lazar quickly folds, getting out of the way.


Dannenmann's stack is being counted down so Hachem knows what he's up against. It's $3,570,000 more if Hachem decides to call. He's in a tough spot here, having already put $2,000,000 into this pot.


Hachem folds, giving the pot to Dannenmann. Dannenmann says, "No more shows," against the protests of the crowd. That was a $4.5 million pot, and there wasn't even a flop.
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That's a great swing in favor of Dannenman.

[Sightless]

[ QUOTE ]

Really good info. with DanN and DavidW.

[/ QUOTE ]

this rocks

[72off]

I had a feeling this hand could be trouble. Black and Kanter are the the two loosest players at the table. I don't think Kanter can call here.

[Hold'me]

What the!? My connection just died and won't re-connect. This stinks! /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[tacklebox]

Folding...

[Muck off]

im lookin were to buy million dollar deal...any clues.

[shant]

This is why when Lederer announces it's much more interesting than Sexton/VVP. They should always pay pros who bust early to announce. Hearing "BINGO BANGO BONGO" after hearing this broadcast is going to suck.

[bones]

Close and re-open.

[tacklebox]

Dan N. Time to punch in at the Wynn. What a lifestyle.

[Bulldog]

RGP? WTF?

[touchfaith]

lol, pating themselves on the back for the commentary...

"it's better then poker on tv!!"

"yeah, that's what I read on RPG..."

"I know, me too...that's why I say that"


***siigggghhhh***

[andyfox]

Joseph Hachem $6.56 million
Andrew Black $13.05 million
Tex Barch 10.4 million
Daniel Bergsdorf $3.26 million
Aaron Kanter $11.17 million
Steve Dannenmann $5.37 million
Scott Lazar $6.47 million

[kt421]

I love how the mikes are on but most people will have no clue of that fact. Though it troubles my inner civil libertarian. Too bad they are clearing the room.

[BS Yee]

Date / Time: 2005-07-15 20:23:00
Title: Official Chip Counts
Log: Here are the official chip counts from the dinner break:


1. Aaron Kanter - $10,680,000 (seat 6)
2. Andrew Black - $18,230,000 (seat 2)
3. Tex Barch - $10,480,000 (seat 3)
4. Steve Dannenmann - $7,130,000 (seat 8)
5. Scott Lazar - $5,370,000 (seat 9)
6. Daniel Bergsdorf - $2,940,000 (seat 4)
7. Joseph Hachem - $2,450,000 (seat 1)

[DVO]

Scott Lazar has the button in seat 9, Kanter limps for $120,000, Hachem limps from the small blind, and Black raises it to $620,000, Kanter calls, and Hachem folds.


The flop comes Jh-7c-5c, Black bets $500,000, and Kanter raises to about $1,600,000. Black quickly reraises to $6,600,000, and we've got two of the chip leaders ready to tangle at the final table.


Daniel Negreanu and David Williams are sitting right next to me (providing live audio commentary on our Webcast), and they both think that Kanter was caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and they think he's just stalling before he folds. He does not look happy, and nothing about his demeanor says, "Call." Black is carefully watching him, with a half-smile on his face, which seems to be his standard expression at big moments like this.


The longer Kanter takes to think, the more likely he is to have a piece of the board, or possibly a draw. There's some eye contact between the two players, and Aaron Kanter smiles as Andrew Black gets up to take a stroll around his chair.


It's been a full five minutes, and Aaron Kanter finally folds his cards. Andrew Black picks up a very large pot.
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This guy is nails. Can't wait to see what he had.

[vulturesrow]

Hmmm the player isnt working for me. Just sitting there doing nothing.

[xxx]

[ QUOTE ]
Hmmm the player isnt working for me. Just sitting there doing nothing.

[/ QUOTE ]

No sound right now, except for the sound of random noise in an empty room.

[$ock]

Tex Barch at the Card Player Table

Tex Barch walks over to the Card Player Table, talking with Daniel Negreanu and David Williams about the last hand. Barch thinks that was a move by Irishman Andrew Black, referring back to a similar move he made the day before against Ivey.

(from CP)

[IdiotVig]

WAR suckouts

equity r00lz!

[Bill Murphy]

Explains (http://www.cardplayer.com/cpeurope/archives/showarticle.php?a_id=10) all the cryin' 'n commotion over Wang's dinner break mistake, maybe.

BTW now that it's getting shorthanded and Black has the big lead again, I'll go out on a limb and say he's gotta be the big favorite. He got a lil tired last night, but he seems sharp today. Man, what kinda odds could you have got yesterday morning that Greg, Ivey, & Mouth would all finish out of the top 8?

Incidentally, Tex Barch told Daniel that he thinks Black bluffed on that last big hand before dinner, "like he did to Ivey yesterday"???!!! /images/graemlins/shocked.gif Gonna have to check the log from yest.

Oh, and here's an unexpected development(from pokervoice): "A slight delay on that as once again power and Internet is lost in the media room. " At Binion's?! Shocked, shocked I say.

Sorry if all this has been posted before. I just got here and there's too much to check. Plus, geeked up for HP6 at midnight. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[vulturesrow]

HP6?

[2+2 wannabe]

[ QUOTE ]
HP6?

[/ QUOTE ]

i'm sure harry potter

[Guernica4000]

The mike is on and people are talking about nothing. Someone is going to the hospital, someone smells something and someone wants take-out. I am just waiting to hear about a hit or something :-)

To be honest and no great disrespect to Kanter I think Andy knows it's a large stack he can attack. And I think Tex is right Andy is avoiding him. Tex and Andy heads-up is my prediction barring very unlikely runner runner flushes etc. Oh wait....

[CrazyEyez]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
HP6?

[/ QUOTE ]

i'm sure harry potter

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow.

[lorinda]

[ QUOTE ]
Scott Lazar has the button in seat 9, Kanter limps for $120,000, Hachem limps from the small blind, and Black raises it to $620,000, Kanter calls, and Hachem folds.


The flop comes Jh-7c-5c, Black bets $500,000, and Kanter raises to about $1,600,000. Black quickly reraises to $6,600,000, and we've got two of the chip leaders ready to tangle at the final table.


Daniel Negreanu and David Williams are sitting right next to me (providing live audio commentary on our Webcast), and they both think that Kanter was caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and they think he's just stalling before he folds. He does not look happy, and nothing about his demeanor says, "Call." Black is carefully watching him, with a half-smile on his face, which seems to be his standard expression at big moments like this.


The longer Kanter takes to think, the more likely he is to have a piece of the board, or possibly a draw. There's some eye contact between the two players, and Aaron Kanter smiles as Andrew Black gets up to take a stroll around his chair.


It's been a full five minutes, and Aaron Kanter finally folds his cards. Andrew Black picks up a very large pot.
----------------------

This guy is nails. Can't wait to see what he had.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd love for you to take a guess. Just had a very long discussion with another 2+2er about this and we saw it very differently.

Edit: The discussion was about Kanter's hand. That's what I'd find interesting.

Lori

[2+2 wannabe]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
HP6?

[/ QUOTE ]

i'm sure harry potter

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow.

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/confused.gif

i dunno - isn't it?

[CrazyEyez]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
HP6?

[/ QUOTE ]

i'm sure harry potter

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow.

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/confused.gif

i dunno - isn't it?

[/ QUOTE ]

I have no doubt you're right. I guess what I was saying "wow" to was this:
[ QUOTE ]
Plus, geeked up for HP6 at midnight.


[/ QUOTE ]

[LethalRose]

80k / 160k Ante 20K is next blind level apparently.

[dogsballs]

[ QUOTE ]
I'd love for you to take a guess. Just had a very long discussion with another 2+2er about this and we saw it very differently.

Edit: The discussion was about Kanter's hand. That's what I'd find interesting.

Lori

[/ QUOTE ]



Lotta possibilities Lori, since it's a decision for the whole tourney. Black's saying he likes his hand a whole lot, so it must be something reasonably strong to agonise over mucking.

88 - TT - he'da prolly raised PF.

I say piece of the flop with a draw to go along with it, eg JcTc.


edit: haven't been following the action. Many would raise the likes of JTs also. If so, mebbe a weaker hand of the same sort.

[Nottom]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Scott Lazar has the button in seat 9, Kanter limps for $120,000, Hachem limps from the small blind, and Black raises it to $620,000, Kanter calls, and Hachem folds.


The flop comes Jh-7c-5c, Black bets $500,000, and Kanter raises to about $1,600,000. Black quickly reraises to $6,600,000, and we've got two of the chip leaders ready to tangle at the final table.


Daniel Negreanu and David Williams are sitting right next to me (providing live audio commentary on our Webcast), and they both think that Kanter was caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and they think he's just stalling before he folds. He does not look happy, and nothing about his demeanor says, "Call." Black is carefully watching him, with a half-smile on his face, which seems to be his standard expression at big moments like this.


The longer Kanter takes to think, the more likely he is to have a piece of the board, or possibly a draw. There's some eye contact between the two players, and Aaron Kanter smiles as Andrew Black gets up to take a stroll around his chair.


It's been a full five minutes, and Aaron Kanter finally folds his cards. Andrew Black picks up a very large pot.
----------------------

This guy is nails. Can't wait to see what he had.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd love for you to take a guess. Just had a very long discussion with another 2+2er about this and we saw it very differently.

Edit: The discussion was about Kanter's hand. That's what I'd find interesting.

Lori

[/ QUOTE ]

I would say he had a non-nut flush draw ... but we know he can't fold those.

[Dynasty]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
HP6?

[/ QUOTE ]

i'm sure harry potter

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow.

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/confused.gif

i dunno - isn't it?

[/ QUOTE ]

I have no doubt you're right. I guess what I was saying "wow" to was this:
[ QUOTE ]
Plus, geeked up for HP6 at midnight.


[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm leaving for Barnes & Noble in about an hour. Screw this poker stuff. I'm getting a new Harry Potter book!

[andyfox]

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

Hopefully.

[lastchance]

Go Dynasty! W00t. I think my little sister will get it, and I'm going to be pawning off her.

[Mason Hellmuth]

[ QUOTE ]
Go Dynasty! W00t. I think my little sister will get it, and I'm going to be pawning off her.

[/ QUOTE ]

How much can you get for a little sister these days?

[72off]

I guess Ivey feels a little better now that EDog dropped some money to him on the golf course.

And Phil really doesn't seem to like Kanter, he can't get over that hand with Raymer.

[duma]

this thing isnt going to end any time soon. just think of this it has taken 6 hours to eliminate 2 people.

[KneeCo]

Have you ever noticed that whenever Phil Ivey talk about poker or when someone is describing a conversation with Phil about poker, the theme is always 'learning'.

Just goes to show you, the best are the best because they are always getting better.

[72off]

[ QUOTE ]
Have you ever noticed that whenever Phil Ivey talk about poker or when someone is describing a conversation with Phil about poker, the theme is always 'learning'.

Just goes to show you, the best are the best because they are always getting better.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's the sick thing, Ivey is still a young man, and seems to be still improving.

[Russ McGinley]

Ouch, Barch sucks out a ten

[lastchance]

$1. You want one? I'll be happy to give it to you, complete with cute face and really loud constant talking action.

[2+2 wannabe]

i love the prop betting b/w erick and phil

[BlackRain]

LOL at the betting on the river card. Hellmuth said he almost bet 5k. Maybe the real action will be in the booth tonight.

[TheCroShow]

these guys will bet on anything! haha that's awesome

[pc in NM]

Eric is a great addition - prop bets, anectdotes, and humor!!!

[Nottom]

would be nice to actually hear this. my audio stream died as soon as they got all-in. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[TheCroShow]

stop your realplayer, then restart it again. same happened to me, and this worked

[oreogod]

Hellmuth and Lindgren wasted would be awesome.

[pc in NM]

[ QUOTE ]
would be nice to actually hear this. my audio stream died as soon as they got all-in. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

close your realplayer, and rstart - if you can, delete the existing "connect.xxx" download, and let it redo - I've found this helps with other streaming audios & RealPlayer....

Hope it works

[mace25]

yea, why is my "streaming audio sounds like [censored].... and than is silent after like 30 seconds? anyone have a better link than the one on cardplayers page?

[CrazyEyez]

This Harry Potter stuff is getting out of hand.

[oreogod]

If it doesnt work after u restart Realplayer...unplug your DSL modem's power cord and plug it back in. Worked fine after that. Ive had to do it twice since earlier.

[jackdaniels]

"Fairly powerful wizard"

Golden!

[Bulldog]

"You haven't lived until you've heard Phil rap" /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nottom]

haha Hellmuth is a Harry Potter fan.

[Dynasty]

[ QUOTE ]
haha Hellmuth is a Harry Potter fan.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not listening to the broadcast. Someobody's got to get a wav file of whatever he said and link it in this thread.

[touchfaith]

time for a beer

[Nottom]

The Aussies rock.

[mace25]

[ QUOTE ]
If it doesnt work after u restart Realplayer...unplug your DSL modem's power cord and plug it back in. Worked fine after that. Ive had to do it twice since earlier.

[/ QUOTE ]


hmmm.... if i wasnt at a final table of a multi right now... i would consider it. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[needcash]

Calling a $2 million re-raise with K/9 suited? I see that on $20 SNGs on Party Poker. Terrible.

[Russ McGinley]

JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[KneeCo]

Hellmuth's ode to Mattias Anderson was classic!

[TheCroShow]

lol gotta love phil and erick's impression of matthias anderson.

[Russ McGinley]

WTF is with these calls? I guess he wants to go home.

[Kevmath]

Lazar must have a plane to catch with these last two hands and he just made all his chips disappear, that's not 1.4

[needcash]

Then he gets moved in and calls with Q/10 offsuit. Black has JJ...jeez. He still can suck out here.

[2+2 wannabe]

why would lazar call these all ins?

[72off]

- calling the tightest guy at the table with 10's?
- calling half your stack with K9?
- putting your tournament on the line with QT?

Huh?

[Kumubou]

And the very next hand he first raised for 20% of his stack and then called a push with QTo. That's a Party 10+1 style move.

-K

[2+2 wannabe]

this is absolutely terrible

[Nottom]

Wow, wtf did Lazar eat?

[touchfaith]

[ QUOTE ]
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=nuclear+explosion/v=2/SID=w/l=IVI/SIG=12b7una3o/EXP=1121560522/*-http%3A//anitaroddick.com/images/nuclear_explosion_ar.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

[Russ McGinley]

The Scott Lazar Blow Up

[72off]

[ QUOTE ]
Wow, wtf did Lazar eat?

[/ QUOTE ]

Donkey.

[TheCroShow]

are we listening to a 5+1 sng?

[kt421]

"Maybe he was drinking too much"

Classic.

[2+2 wannabe]

[ QUOTE ]
are we listening to a 5+1 sng?

[/ QUOTE ]

this is a stars 1+.20 sng

[KneeCo]

This play is just sad.

This is the final table of the WSOP ME for christ sake.
C'mon guys, wow us!

[jacki]

somebody call a translator for this guy.

[Russ McGinley]

[ QUOTE ]
somebody call a translator for this guy.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have no idea what this dude is saying. Thanks Phil for translating.

[CrazyEyez]

WTF is Ly saying?

[pc in NM]

[ QUOTE ]
Lazar must have a plane to catch with these last two hands and he just made all his chips disappear, that's not 1.4

[/ QUOTE ]

Phil and Daniel said that some players fold under the pressure of a final table - I think we just witnessed that....

Wow, that was sudden....

[2+2 wannabe]

[ QUOTE ]
somebody call a translator for this guy.

[/ QUOTE ]

hahaha i seriously can't understand anything

p.s. the between-hand interviews have been really good (other than this one) - they've filled the time beautifully

[krimson]

[ QUOTE ]
somebody call a translator for this guy.

[/ QUOTE ]

here's a translation

***BOOOO HOOOO***

[Nottom]

[ QUOTE ]
- calling the tightest guy at the table with 10's?


[/ QUOTE ]

The guy with TT was definately pot-comitted after raising $2 Million before the JJ pushed for a little more.

[steviej1717]

Is anyone else listening to the gutshot broadcast, I can't get cardplayers, no realplayer on work computer /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Russ McGinley]

LOL, again with the WWWF reference. Phil you are about 30 years out of date.

[2+2 wannabe]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
- calling the tightest guy at the table with 10's?


[/ QUOTE ]

The guy with TT was definately pot-comitted after raising $2 Million before the JJ pushed for a little more.

[/ QUOTE ]

wasn't the $2M raise a little extreme in the first place?

[krimson]

[ QUOTE ]
Is anyone else listening to the gutshot broadcast, I can't get cardplayers, no realplayer on work computer /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

No way, listening to hellmuth rant is gold

[RaMz123]

He probably had a blackout, just wanted to double up and get his chips back. The pressure was to big for him. Thats what the pressure can do to a player without a good psyke.

[2+2 wannabe]

hellmuth: here's phil gordon, and his book - shuffle up and....hey phil what's your book

gordon: that's mike sexton, mine's the little green book of hold 'em

haha hilarious

[pc in NM]

"Maybe he was drinking at dinner..." LOL

[72off]

[ QUOTE ]
wasn't the $2M raise a little extreme in the first place?

[/ QUOTE ]

I suppose he was just trying to get the shortstack allin. I think the original raiser was Hachem, so Barch was trying to isolate him. And once Bergstrom moved in, I guess he had to call.

Ok, ok, not a terrible play.

[Kevmath]

[ QUOTE ]
LOL, again with the WWWF reference. Phil you are about 30 years out of date.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll just think of my comments and let you post them Russ. What's with Phil always being out of date, with his Austin Powers "Baby", and Billy Joel's "Pressure"

[jacki]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Is anyone else listening to the gutshot broadcast, I can't get cardplayers, no realplayer on work computer /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

No way, listening to hellmuth rant is gold

[/ QUOTE ]

Keep singing the Pressure song.
/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[James Lang]

I hope he stops singing soon

[Russ McGinley]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
LOL, again with the WWWF reference. Phil you are about 30 years out of date.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll just think of my comments and let you post them Russ. What's with Phil always being out of date, with his Austin Powers "Baby", and Billy Joel's "Pressure"

[/ QUOTE ]

Hehe you are always about 5 seconds too slow /images/graemlins/smile.gif Next time I'll give you a head start.

[TheCroShow]

hellmuth=4tw

[Nottom]

gordon: "Who does he think he is, Robert Varkoni?"

-awesome.

[kt421]

[ QUOTE ]
Is anyone else listening to the gutshot broadcast, I can't get cardplayers, no realplayer on work computer /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

In the thread about the cardplayer broadcast (first page, I think) a guy gives a link to a codec that purportedly allows you to play realmedia files in another player. I downloaded it, but have not yet used it. If it works, I'll be happy to wipe realplayer off my computer forever.

[2+2 wannabe]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
wasn't the $2M raise a little extreme in the first place?

[/ QUOTE ]

I suppose he was just trying to get the shortstack allin. I think the original raiser was Hachem, so Barch was trying to isolate him. And once Bergstrom moved in, I guess he had to call.

Ok, ok, not a terrible play.

[/ QUOTE ]

2M was pretty high though - 1.5M would have done the same thing

[bones]

"DA DA DA DA DA DA PRESSURE! Thats a Queen song"

Phil needs to do the commentary for every sporting event until the end of time.

[jacki]

gordon just called the Aussie Hakim

[Redmen62]

It's Billy Joel.

[72off]

Phil: "Hey Andrew, did you spend 5 years in a Buddhist monastery?"

Black: "Yeah, 5 years."

Phil: "Cool."

[jacki]

[ QUOTE ]
It's Billy Joel.

[/ QUOTE ]

Billy Joel, Queen, same thing.

[pc in NM]

IMHO, Hellmuth, Negraneau, Williams, Harmon, The actual players, etc., etc., THIS IS DA BOMB!!!!

[KneeCo]

w00t

[2+2 wannabe]

[ QUOTE ]
Phil: "Hey Andrew, did you spend 5 years in a Buddhist monastery?"

Black: "Yeah, 5 years."

Phil: "Cool."

[/ QUOTE ]

hahahahahaha

[Smarty]

"thats like taking a bad beat worse than you"

[TheCroShow]

these guys are so much better than norman chad and lorn? lan? (spelling??) mc..damn that guy's name is tough to spell! haha mchearen? anyway, hellmuth=100000 times better than those espn donks

[Kevmath]

Dennenmann's golf buddy's must be enjoying that minimum 875k right now.

[Russ McGinley]

Damn they beat me to it, but yeah, no Pokerstars winner this year, shockingly enough.

[2+2 wannabe]

"no poker stars - they're ready for some ultimate bet at the final table"

this is out and out great commentary

[xxx]

[ QUOTE ]
WTF is Ly saying?

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL- He is mad at Matasow because Mike said he cant speak english. And no one can understand him complain. HA

[Red_Eye_Jedi]

[ QUOTE ]
Phil: "Hey Andrew, did you spend 5 months in a Buddhist monastery?"

Black: "Yeah, 5 years."

Phil: "Cool."

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

[2+2 wannabe]

are any of these guys internet qualifiers? from where?

[Kevmath]

There's still Kanter, the Party Steps winner and Black won an Internet satellite from somewhere

[Howard Treesong]

[ QUOTE ]
LOL- He is mad at Matasow because Mike said he cant speak english. And no one can understand him complain. HA

[/ QUOTE ]

He's mad at Matusow because Matusow called a hand that he wasn't involved with. Men was involved in a hand and Matusow called it; then he insulted Men's ability to speak English. The latter ploy is annoying, but Matusow should STFU in the middle of someone else's hand.

[utmt40]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
LOL- He is mad at Matasow because Mike said he cant speak english. And no one can understand him complain. HA

[/ QUOTE ]

He's mad at Matusow because Matusow called a hand that he wasn't involved with. Men was involved in a hand and Matusow called it; then he insulted Men's ability to speak English. The latter ploy is annoying, but Matusow should STFU in the middle of someone else's hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree but I still like Mikey!

[pc in NM]

Ya gotta hand it to "the mouth' - he suffered a couple of "bad beats", but still exited with compsure and dignity....

That's progress for him....

[TheCroShow]

lol i hate ppl that hollywood

[pc in NM]

"He just showed that he can fold... nothing" - great observation!!

[pc in NM]

IMHO, Lundgren has raised the pot....

[72off]

[ QUOTE ]
"He just showed that he can fold... nothing" - great observation!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, what's the point of Hollywooding, then showing the ace high? Plus there's the possibility that he had the best hand with the ace. Seems kind of counterproductive. But what do I know?

[2+2 wannabe]

from gutshot:

turn 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif river 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif