Understanding implied odds...

[Entity]

UTG+1 is a nutcase (like a 2+2er at a 2+2 table on crack). MP3 is a bit too LAG but is more solid and more reasonable. BB is unknown.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero...

I'm getting about 3:1 immediate odds on a call, 4.3:1 if BB comes along. What say ye?

[jaxUp]

easy call

[istewart]

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easy call

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[SCfuji]

i hate having the raiser to my right in these situations. tough to collect double bets on later streets.

[@bsolute_luck]

is Party .5/1 the same as .25/.5 Paradise: the SB is actually 1/2 of a sB?

so it is even less to get in plus it is an easy "let go" hand if not made on cheap flop. i think i'd call.

[milesdyson]

UTG+1 is limp-reraising here a lot by your description and BB might not call. I would fold.

edit: I didn't even consider how many bets you'd make off UTG+1 when posting this. You're not getting the proper "5:1" that you need against semi-sane players, but you don't need that because UTG+1 is going to be betting and raising with almost anything. Droolie is right.

[Entity]

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UTG+1 is limp-reraising here a lot by your description.

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A fair amount, but hardly a lot. Maybe 10-15% of the time.

Rob

[droolie]

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easy call

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With the nutcase on board you will make boffo bank postflop when you hit your set.

[tinhat]

I would not want to play this out of position, calling pfr and not having enough bettors in the hand to pay off the infrequent set. 22 hu/sh seems like a clear fold at this point regardless of odds.

Just about the only way we win is a third two and meanwhile virtually anything on the flop puts us behind (if we aren't already). And after watching a couple 2+2 party tables, we'll definitely have to showdown. Seems too speculative for the expense involved...

[jaxUp]

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you will make boffo bank postflop

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you'll WHAT?