Do You See why?

37offsuit · #1 03-09-2005, 10:19 AM

Hypothetical. You are playing at a side game of the WSOP. You are given a choice between having the following two hands on the given board against Ad As. This is a cash game, there is $100,000 in the pot and your opponent has $2.06 left. He pushes all in. Which hand would you choose to have to call with:

Board: Ah 8d 6s

Hands you can choose from:

8s 8h
2d 3d

D.H. · #2 03-09-2005, 10:51 AM

Well, this is pure math. Simply count the 2-card combinations that will win you the hand in each case.

8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]: Any combination with the last 8, except for the one with the last Ace => 43 combinations.

2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]: Any combination with two diamonds (34) and all combinations with a 4 and a 5 (9) => 43 combinations.

No cards will give a split pot. So, it doesn't really matter, both hands will win the pot 43/990 = 4.34% of the time.

thatpfunk · #3 03-09-2005, 10:56 AM

2d 3d, runner runner makes it a more painful beat.

D.H. · #4 03-09-2005, 11:00 AM

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2d 3d, runner runner makes it a more painful beat.

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Oh yeah, that's so obvious now that you say it. I guess it wasn't pure math after all. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

tpir90036 · #5 03-09-2005, 11:12 AM

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2d 3d, runner runner makes it a more painful beat.

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Avgard · #6 03-09-2005, 01:57 PM

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8 8: Any combination with the last 8, except for the one with the last Ace => 43 combinations.

2 3: Any combination with two diamonds (34) and all combinations with a 4 and a 5 (9) => 43 combinations.

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D.H., your final result is correct, however, your subtotals are wrong.

For the 2 3 hand, there are 36 combinations of diamonds but must eliminate the 8 which include the 6 as it makes a full house for opponent. So flush combinations are 28. There are 16 straight combinations, but we have already counted the the diamond one (4d5d), so total is 15. The 28 + 15 gives us the 43 combinations.

valenzuela · #7 03-09-2005, 02:06 PM

I call with eights, only 1 turn card kills u right away.

Shajen · #8 03-09-2005, 03:33 PM

2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] folded preflop.

The 88 I call with.

Or just about any other hand I call with. It's $2.00 in a $100k pot.

D.H. · #9 03-09-2005, 05:02 PM

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D.H., your final result is correct, however, your subtotals are wrong.

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You're right. My bad.

MicroBob · #10 03-09-2005, 05:44 PM

is this the right forum for this?