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Old 03-03-2005, 12:01 PM
Marquis Marquis is offline
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Default JJ gets it heads-up

I'm 4-tabling, so no reads on the villain.

Incidently, all these bonuses lately and the 4-tabling is not exactly doing wonders for my game. I almost can't wait for them to end so that I can get back to playing poker.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero ???

What's my line for the rest of the hand?
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:07 PM
Womble Womble is offline
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Default Re: JJ gets it heads-up

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I dont really know but this happens to me alot. I would be tempted to call and fold turn UI.

He is not afraid of raising a PF raiser so he 'should' have the K. Who knows [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: JJ gets it heads-up

Call, fold the turn UI. What else is he raising an UTG raiser on that board. I highly doubt it is a T. Good hand, bad flop, small pot=move on
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: JJ gets it heads-up

I dunno guys, call and check-fold seems awfully weak. I think you'll see guys take stabs at you heads-up here enough to make a different line more viable. Does anyone 3-bet or just go into call-down mode from here?
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: JJ gets it heads-up

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Call, fold the turn UI.

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What's the point? For image?
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: JJ gets it heads-up

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Call, fold the turn UI.

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I see people recommending this all the time.

How many outs do you think you have here?
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: JJ gets it heads-up

The pot is smallish. You can fold on the flop but I probably wouldn't. I'd call. Check/ call the turn and river. Many players will take shots HU. I have to have a semblance of a read to give up on the 4+BB's you stand to win if you call this down correctly... This might be spewing but I find many players who actually have the K will go all passive and let me bet into them on every street. They will fear you have AA or AK and not want to fold their top pair in case you don't.
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: JJ gets it heads-up

Guilty as charged. We have 2 outs...I just feels weak to fold. Darn cards look so pretty. Good point.
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: JJ gets it heads-up

I did not 3-bet the flop. This particular jokester bet the turn but checked the river through with T9.

Hey drool, if he was bluffing or semi-bluffing on the flop there's a good chance he'll check the river through as he did here. How do you feel about folding the river if he keeps betting? I guess the pot is probably laying you enough odds by that time to call that one, too, eh?
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: JJ gets it heads-up

I think that, until I have seen evidence otherwise, my standard line here would be to call down against an unknown. I sometimes feel like I am giving away chips here, but I win enough to feel justified.
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