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Old 10-17-2004, 12:52 AM
Jimbobobb Jimbobobb is offline
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Default AA vs. some strange stop and go action

UTG + 1 is bad. Overvalues his hands like no tomorrow.

BB is just wierd. Only been at the table 2 orbits, and have seen him in 75% of pots. He goes to pretty much every showdown as well. Have yet to see him actually show down a winner. That's all the info I have - no real read, I know.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

UTG+1 raises any A or any K preflop. Those are his raising standards.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

UTG + 1's bet means he has a pair. Good for him.

Turn: (7.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

huh on BB? Again, UTG + 1's raise doesn't mean much to me.

River: (16.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero......

Well, that brought in a runner runner draw and paired the board. I'm sure I'm ahead of UTG+1, but unknown on BB. Raise against an unknown, or just call and put the info into storage?
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Old 10-17-2004, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action

I like calling here; that's a pretty scary board for AA. Unless I have a read I'm inclined to give BB credit for more than just a pair of tens.
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Old 10-17-2004, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action

Well no need for raising here, since BB has shown strength betting into two raisers. I'd just call down here and see what BB is holding. I believe your beat though. my guess is pocket pair with a made boat, I dont know just seems weird someone would bet out on a flush draw.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action

I think I just call. He might be betting a pair on the turn into what he sees as probable overcards, but it seems unlikely that he'd follow through on the river once it's bet and 3-bet behind him. The 3 might have counterfeited his 2-pair, but I'm not sure it's worth raising to find out. Whatever his hand is, his river bet seems to suggest that he likes it quite a bit. I call and make a note for next time if he shows me something strange.
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Old 10-17-2004, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action

Call. I don't think either Villain is folding and I don't think you're ahead of both.
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Old 10-17-2004, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action

Raising the river is insane.
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Old 10-17-2004, 02:56 PM
Jimbobobb Jimbobobb is offline
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Default Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action

Ok good I wanted to make sure I wasn't alone here. I pretty much agree with everyone, and called. I guess my real problem with this hand was my complete innability to put BB on a hand throughout the entire thing. Usually I can at least take a stab at it, but his betting made even less sense than the normal party goer (to me at least) here. In the end, BB flipped up a bad T, UTG + 1 flipped up A9. BB joined the buddy list.
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