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Jimbobobb 10-17-2004 12:52 AM

AA vs. some strange stop and go action
 
UTG + 1 is bad. Overvalues his hands like no tomorrow.

BB is just wierd. Only been at the table 2 orbits, and have seen him in 75% of pots. He goes to pretty much every showdown as well. Have yet to see him actually show down a winner. That's all the info I have - no real read, I know.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

UTG+1 raises any A or any K preflop. Those are his raising standards.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

UTG + 1's bet means he has a pair. Good for him.

Turn: (7.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

huh on BB? Again, UTG + 1's raise doesn't mean much to me.

River: (16.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero......

Well, that brought in a runner runner draw and paired the board. I'm sure I'm ahead of UTG+1, but unknown on BB. Raise against an unknown, or just call and put the info into storage?

topspin 10-17-2004 01:44 AM

Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action
 
I like calling here; that's a pretty scary board for AA. Unless I have a read I'm inclined to give BB credit for more than just a pair of tens.

cocarondelle 10-17-2004 02:36 AM

Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action
 
Well no need for raising here, since BB has shown strength betting into two raisers. I'd just call down here and see what BB is holding. I believe your beat though. my guess is pocket pair with a made boat, I dont know just seems weird someone would bet out on a flush draw.

detruncate 10-17-2004 03:51 AM

Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action
 
I think I just call. He might be betting a pair on the turn into what he sees as probable overcards, but it seems unlikely that he'd follow through on the river once it's bet and 3-bet behind him. The 3 might have counterfeited his 2-pair, but I'm not sure it's worth raising to find out. Whatever his hand is, his river bet seems to suggest that he likes it quite a bit. I call and make a note for next time if he shows me something strange.

davelin 10-17-2004 10:05 AM

Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action
 
Call. I don't think either Villain is folding and I don't think you're ahead of both.

Nottom 10-17-2004 11:27 AM

Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action
 
Raising the river is insane.

Jimbobobb 10-17-2004 02:56 PM

Re: AA vs. some strange stop and go action
 
Ok good I wanted to make sure I wasn't alone here. I pretty much agree with everyone, and called. I guess my real problem with this hand was my complete innability to put BB on a hand throughout the entire thing. Usually I can at least take a stab at it, but his betting made even less sense than the normal party goer (to me at least) here. In the end, BB flipped up a bad T, UTG + 1 flipped up A9. BB joined the buddy list.


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