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Old 08-30-2004, 05:03 PM
ismisus ismisus is offline
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Default Re: Re-raises on your steals

This advice is true
"I think you should decide before you raise what you will do if re-raised"

However, it also depends on the player who re-raises you and how much is the re-raise for.

When a marginal holding such as AJ gets re-raised for the 5th time in a row, its not pleasant going from 3000T to 1500T without even seeing a hand.

Do you think limping with AJ, medium pockets are a good idea in such an aggressive table? I mean if someone raises you, you won't lose as much as you would lose if raised 3X the blind.
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Old 08-30-2004, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Re-raises on your steals

"When a marginal holding such as AJ gets re-raised for the 5th time in a row, its not pleasant going from 3000T to 1500T without even seeing a hand.

Something is wrong here. I may just be confused, but if you are saying that if you start w/ T3000 and end up w/ T1500 then you are raising %50 of your stack. This can't possibly be correct. If you are raising %50 of your stack you should be moving in.



"Do you think limping with AJ, medium pockets are a good idea in such an aggressive table? I mean if someone raises you, you won't lose as much as you would lose if raised 3X the blind."

This is really situational dependent, but generally limping w/ AJ and mid PP's at an agressive table is a mistake.
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Old 08-30-2004, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: Re-raises on your steals


You also need to calibrate with your table image. If people have seen you raise then fold a bunch, they may be more likely to see you as a folder and resteal more often.

I’ve found the solutions are:1) tighten up some and wait for big hands, which should get paid off on loose/aggressive tables like this, or 2) pick a good spot and resteal yourself (ie. raise 4 limpers allin with KTs with 18xBB)
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Old 08-30-2004, 09:03 PM
davidross davidross is offline
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Default Re: Re-raises on your steals

I think 5 straight raises being re-raised would be too much for me. I would either fold pre-flop or come back over the top if it was the same guy every time.

I wouldn't limp first in with AJ ever, I'd rather fold it, but I can see limping with a pair. SO much depends on what you think of the other players. If you have raise/folded twice for example, a raise/all-in will make the other guy stop and think.
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Old 08-30-2004, 10:59 PM
Ian J Ian J is offline
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Default Re: Re-raises on your steals

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my experience has been the exact opposite! Especially in the end. In the 200/100/50 tourneys I am much more likely to get re-raised, than in 20/30 tourneys where people are much more tighter in the end.

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This is because more of the people in the 50-200 tourneys are playing correctly (re-stealing) and the ones in the 20s and 30s are playing scared and trying to play well by playing overly tight. The 50-200s are generally going to be more aggressive because it's a higher level of play.
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Old 08-31-2004, 01:55 AM
joedot joedot is offline
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Default Re: Re-raises on your steals

bull. just because the buy in is higher doesn't mean the players are better when it gets to the final table. One thing I have learned over the years, higher limit games are filled with bad players that are rich, just like low limit games are filled with bad players that are poor. Doesn't mean jack. I'm sure that many of the final table players in a 20/30 buy in are equally skilled as final tablers in a 100/200 buy in.
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