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Old 07-28-2004, 10:26 PM
Ian M. Ian M. is offline
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

It's not the same guy is it?
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Old 07-29-2004, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

yeah, still not sure if i like this play or not, i think i like it against him because he can fold the Kh here. probably just calling was best but i thought the Jh was a likely hand for him while the Ah was unlikely (from the bet size).
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

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yeah, still not sure if i like this play or not, i think i like it against him because he can fold the Kh here. probably just calling was best but i thought the Jh was a likely hand for him while the Ah was unlikely (from the bet size).

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nice read, nice follow-through. this is exactly the type of player to make a move like this against. having a hand with showdown value makes this seem harder than it really is. given your read, you would raise here without the T of hearts wouldn't you?

assumptions(given reads):
- will always fold the J of hearts.
- will sometimes fold the K of hearts.
- Ace of hearts is less likely than K or J.

without actually giving specific #'s to these situations, raising the river here regardless of your holding seems to be the right play.
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

Let's say you just called his small bet, and he showed the Kh and you lose -- would you be thinking to yourself "damn, I should have raised... "?

I don't think this raise is worth it on bluff value alone, particularly since I think he might have check-called with a Jh or Kh (and even if he does have one of those two, he STILL might call you).

Usually, you're just going to take the pot from an inferior hand, sometimes you're going to lose that bet to the ace, sometimes you're going to lose that bet to a Kh or Jh, sometimes you'll push a K or J out.. If you'll sometimes get called by a worse hand, then I'd say it's worth it.
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

yeah, it is, as far as i know.
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Old 07-29-2004, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

Yes, it is definitely the same guy.
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

What makes you think its the same guy?
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

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Old 07-29-2004, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

Check this out, common knowledge, I guess, but still fun

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<[4K^TillerMaN]> i just did mini one
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<Anarion> just let me know, are you back on the warcraft scene now?
<[4K^TillerMaN]> no
<[4K^TillerMaN]> im unlikely to ever play war3 again
<[4K^TillerMaN]> =(
<Anarion> are you tired, or have you just given up?
<[4K^TillerMaN]> more important stuff
<[4K^TillerMaN]> poker
<Anarion> such as?
<Anarion> ah
<[4K^TillerMaN]> u should read
<[4K^TillerMaN]> my interview
<[4K^TillerMaN]> at wc3addicts.com
<[4K^TillerMaN]> covers it
<Anarion> can't i post this? :O
<[4K^TillerMaN]> i dunno
<[4K^TillerMaN]> better as k them
<[4K^TillerMaN]> i dont care
<[4K^TillerMaN]> obviously
<[4K^TillerMaN]> do what u want
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Old 07-29-2004, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. TillerMan, debate every street if you like

I guess ill be the first to say it since no one else is. Whats up with playing 10/K offsuit? I mean I just assume you were the large stack and you were "feeling it" that session. Or maybe you were mixing your play? Id rather mix up my play with 10/J suited or something instead though.
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