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Old 07-15-2004, 07:28 PM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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I love it...my PC is catching on.

As for the hand...I don't like a limp reraise here because you usually will not have any folding equity, and I would just as soon AQ fold here.
I think it's close, but with his stack, an all in is the best option, IMO.

Given the way he played it preflop...I think a fold on that flop is fine.
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:08 AM
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Are any of your opponents circling the drain? If you can move up the pay ladder a few rungs just by folding, you may want to do so. But if everyone is relatively healthy, you clearly can't fold here. JJ at this stage in the tournament is a real gift.

I'm torn between pushing and trying for the limp/reraise. The second choice carries more risk, obviously, but my thinking is that this is the time to take a chance. Double up here, and you're a cinch to make the top 3. If you just win the blinds, it's nice, but you're donating it right back the next two hands.

It depends on the other players, I guess. If they are savvy enough to fear the UTG call, it may be more deceptive to push and goad them into a loose call.
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:58 AM
aquifex harse aquifex harse is offline
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Kevyk
I tend to play very tight at the early stages of a final table and I did think of folding because there were two players short stacked (<4BB). However, as you said a double up here would put me in good shape. I think I should have pushed and hoped to take the blinds, or get called by an underpair. In reality a call would probably mean a coin flip situation.
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Old 07-16-2004, 11:33 AM
DonT77 DonT77 is offline
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I consider JJ-77 medium pairs because even with JJ you are going to see an overcard on the flop more than half the time. So I agree with the other posters, you don't want to see a flop in this position. With 9.5xBB I would play JJ just like 99 here, either all-in or fold - mostly likely all-in here depending on the stack sizes and the reads on the players behind me.
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Old 07-16-2004, 12:00 PM
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Aquifex,
Jacks are always a tricky hand, and while I don't think there is a wrong answer to this problem, I think I'm going for the limp/reraise play. Here's why:

1. You may end up all-in versus a hand which is a big dog to you. A short-stack making an all-in move here could have anything, as could a big stack in late position. You might make your decision to fold or reraise conditional on your opponent's stack size. I'd really only fear a medium stack's all-in, just because his range of possible hands is so much smaller.

2. Even if you do end up in a coinflip, that's fine in this spot. The top 3 are the money spots; when you win you've hit the jackpot, while when you lose you've only given up the difference between 9th and say, 5th. So the coinflip here is big-time +EV.
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