Collusion Defined (Party Poker)

[nykenny]

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uhhh

"Colluder 2" called you down to the river with a pair of threes and then raised you when he rivered trips.

"Colluder 1" did absolutely nothing but call bets and fold the river.

If these two are "obviously" working as a team then I must "obviously" be completely braindead because I can't see how.

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count me in, i must be a retart

[OldLearner]

uhhhh...I think I can clear this one up. That was me with the Q3o.

You what??? You reported me??? OMG.

They better send you an email telling you I'm just plain stoopid and not some calluder cause this just makes me mad.

I'm not playing my Q3's anymore, that's for sure!

[N4CER1]

Boy it is sure nice to have guys like you on the forum that post such wasted crap and think your funny.....get a life and post something or answer something that makes sense...waste of everyones time......

[scotnt73]

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inconceivable!

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I don't think that word means what you think it does.

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Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

[OrangeHeat]

[Sloats]

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inconceivable!

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I don't think that word means what you think it does.

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Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.


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He made the one of the three classic blunders.

Number 1 is never start a land war in Asia and Number 2 is not raising pre-flop with pocket Aces.

[fyodor]

I found this whole thread hilarious. Thank you to all who contributed for the laughs.

I do believe that there is some degree of collusion online. I don't worry about it. I have never noticably ran across it in the last year on PartyPoker (about 25-50,000 hands)

What may seem like pot building collusion is often one player taking advantage of a live one. The other night I sat on the immediate left of a total cannon. Every time I had big cards I reraised him to shut everyone else out. I knew everyone would know what I was up to but they still have to call the 3 bets plus his inevitable cap.

One hand is all you need to see. I had something like AK. He had T2o. He raised with this UTG. I reraised. He capped. Flop doesn't help either of us. We cap again. Turn = nothing. River = nothing. He checked and called BOTH. Yes he called my bet on the river with Ten high. lol

These players do exist.

[BettnTibetn]

there probably is a lot of collusion online because its easy to do. However most of the time its just a bunch of idiots doing stupid stuff and getting lucky

[CORed]

If they were playing every hand and raising and reraising when they both had junk, I wouldn't report them until I had cleaned them both out. They may well have been colluding, but they were doing it so stupidly that you probably could have made way more money from them than from a game where everybody was honest. If they were raising and reraising when one of them had a good hand, it's a different story. It's also possible that you ran into two maniacs with bad connections or slow computers.

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After reading the hand history, I have to agree with the other posters. I don't see collusion here. Only one player was raising and the other was just calling. The raiser only raised preflop, then called you on the flop and turn and raised when he hit his trips on the river. I think you had a maniac and a calling station who either had bad connections or were multi-tabling (It's hard to keep up with multiple tables when you never fold). If you had stayed in the game, you would have gotten your money back many times over, if you can actually play a decent game. You got your aces cracked by an idiot. Get over it.