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Old 11-28-2005, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

AA-88
AK - AT
KQ - KT

I think there are a lot of possibilities with this type of player. He seems loose
If he has slow played it up to this point then you just got screwed but I think there are a lot of hands that are possible.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:38 PM
Bill Lumberg Bill Lumberg is offline
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

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I think UTG woke up with two pair on the river (AT, JT).

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He wouldn't raise UTG with those hands.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:44 PM
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That is a strange betting pattern by UTG. Check-Raising the river? Huh. I can't really put him on a hand with that play. Strange indeed.

Anyway, I probably play the hand the same way but im not sure about the turn. I'm probably to big of a wuss there and check behind because of them calling me down all the time so they must be on something. But I prolly bet it 50% of the times here aswell.

On the river I raise his raise. I have the best hand. I have a really really hard time putting him on JJ or AA here.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:59 PM
Mathieu Mathieu is offline
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

It sounds like UTG is a tight raiser, is TT strong enough to 3 bet vs his range of hands? I think the presence of a loose caller and a poster somewhat compensates for the fact that we may be behind UTG+1. I'm not sure it justifies a 3 bet though. If the rest of the table is LOOSE passive, it may be correct to cold call.

This flop is ugly, we are ahead of no hands of a tight utg raiser other than KQs. If my read was solid I would just give up the pot. If my read consists mostly of stats, I play it as you did because it's possible that utg raises more hands like KQo and 88+ and just got a cold run of cards.

utg+1 does not worry me right now because his range is very wide.
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:13 PM
Bill Lumberg Bill Lumberg is offline
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

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AA-88
AK - AT
KQ - KT

I think there are a lot of possibilities with this type of player. He seems loose
If he has slow played it up to this point then you just got screwed but I think there are a lot of hands that are possible.

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According to OP's read, your range is way too wide. According to the read, this guy only raises with the nuts. Call on the river.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

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I think UTG woke up with two pair on the river (AT, JT).

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He wouldn't raise UTG with those hands.

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Yup. Misread the post. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

Ummm, you have a FH on the river and he has broadway, I'm guessing. Why no 3bet?

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