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11-28-2005 10:01 PM

Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
The board looked like trouble but everyone acted weak

UTG is 41.38/5.75%PFR/0.67 AF/87 hands. I read him as textbook calling station. and he has gone to showdown 35% of the time

UTG+1 is 53.49/4.65%PFR/2.13 AF/43 hands. He's been killing the rest of the table with nonstop betting and taking most of the pots without showdown. I successfully isolated him twice and took down nice pots when he showed bottom pair.



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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $1.
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds,Hero 3-bets,5 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks,Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (9.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

11-28-2005 10:20 PM

Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
I think UTG woke up with two pair on the river (AT, JT). I would assume UTG is would raise AA and JJ preflop, probably KQ as well, so I think you can rule out those hands. I think you're ahead enough on the river to 3-bet the raise.

Bill Lumberg 11-28-2005 10:22 PM

Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
UTG is a wuss, you are beat, and he's just calling down to "save" himself money. How about trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible by checking the turn and taking a free card?

11-28-2005 10:24 PM

Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
UTG did raise preflop

11-28-2005 10:26 PM

Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
With those reads I like the Preflop 3bet to isolate the two individuals. You've got a good hand and you have position

I bet it all the way and I three bet the river and call a cap.
The only hand you are behind is pocket AA/JJ - I don't think 55 raises PF. I think you get popped on the turn by AA or JJ.

11-28-2005 10:31 PM

Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
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UTG is a wuss, you are beat, and he's just calling down to "save" himself money. How about trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible by checking the turn and taking a free card?

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Are you kidding about this?
The turn check is very weak - I'm not giving any free cards to the loose players. I might bet the turn then fold to raise but most likely call turn reraise and fold UI vs another river bet.

If UI it take the free card on the river only......

Bill Lumberg 11-28-2005 10:33 PM

Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
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I bet it all the way and I three bet the river and call a cap.
The only hand you are behind is pocket AA/JJ - I don't think 55 raises PF. I think you get popped on the turn by AA or JJ.

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So, what is villain raising the river with?

11-28-2005 10:34 PM

Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
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I think UTG woke up with two pair on the river (AT, JT). I would assume UTG is would raise AA and JJ preflop, probably KQ as well, so I think you can rule out those hands. I think you're ahead enough on the river to 3-bet the raise.

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Yeah....

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As for the concern about the PFR - If you are beat then there is nothing you can do about it. You've got a great hand and have to push that edge against loose opponents that have done nothing up to this point but call.

Bill Lumberg 11-28-2005 10:36 PM

Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
UTG is a wuss, you are beat, and he's just calling down to "save" himself money. How about trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible by checking the turn and taking a free card?

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Are you kidding about this?
The turn check is very weak - I'm not giving any free cards to the loose players. I might bet the turn then fold to raise but most likely call turn reraise and fold UI vs another river bet.

If UI it take the free card on the river only......

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Actually, yeah, that's much better, bet turn, check behind on river.

11-28-2005 10:36 PM

Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?
 
Looks pretty darn good to me. I love it when I hit a set on the river.


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