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Old 11-22-2005, 11:20 AM
Wynton Wynton is offline
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Krishan posts interesting hands, but very boring titles. It's his biggest leak.

How about raising the turn?
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:25 AM
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Call this post something different than the other one.

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Krishan posts interesting hands, but very boring titles. It's his biggest leak.

How about raising the turn?

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I don't like waiting for the turn to raise when there are a gazillion cards that look ugly to you. I think it's normally best to fast play a mid-range overpair (77-JJ) on the flop
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: River call...

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How about raising the turn?

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This was the original plan. I guess I didn't like the heart.

Krishan
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: River call...

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This was the original plan. I guess I didn't like the heart.

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That's interesting because sometimes I find myself more prone to raise a turn (in position), when a third suit appears. Maybe this doesn't make sense.
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:35 AM
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This was the original plan. I guess I didn't like the heart.

Krishan

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That's interesting because sometimes I find myself more prone to raise a turn (in position), when a third suit appears. Maybe this doesn't make sense.

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It's not too bad because you can fold to a 3-bet (presumably). Sometimes the river goes wierd when the 4th flush comes though. Not sure of optimal play in that spot.

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Old 11-22-2005, 11:35 AM
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How about raising the turn?

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This was the original plan. I guess I didn't like the heart.

Krishan

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That's why you need to cap the flop. You aren't going to like any heart. You also won't like any A/K/5. And even T/J/Q aren't going to like very appetizing.
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: River call...

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How about raising the turn?

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This was the original plan. I guess I didn't like the heart.

Krishan

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That's why you need to cap the flop. You aren't going to like any heart. You also won't like any A/K/5. And even T/J/Q aren't going to like very appetizing.

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I don't mind K/Q/J/T at all. Saving bets when you are behind to 555 or aces up isn't a bad thing either. It's a fine line between being weak tight and saving bets.

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Old 11-22-2005, 12:08 PM
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That's why you need to cap the flop. You aren't going to like any heart. You also won't like any A/K/5. And even T/J/Q aren't going to like very appetizing.

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when you say there are a whole bunch of turns that we won't like you are implicitly saying that our equity isn't that great. I like the line krishan took, it allows us to put in 2bbs on favorable turns and just one on nasty ones.

if you cap the flop you are setting yourself up for a lot of check raises on the turn, I think.
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Old 11-22-2005, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: River call...

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That's why you need to cap the flop. You aren't going to like any heart. You also won't like any A/K/5. And even T/J/Q aren't going to like very appetizing.

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when you say there are a whole bunch of turns that we won't like you are implicitly saying that our equity isn't that great. I like the line krishan took, it allows us to put in 2bbs on favorable turns and just one on nasty ones.

if you cap the flop you are setting yourself up for a lot of check raises on the turn, I think.

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I sometimes play a little odd, but I check behind a lot of those scary turns after capping the flop. Basically, any heart, 5, or Ace I check behind on the turn and call a river bet. If the turn is non-scary, I will bet it and fold to a raise.
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:03 PM
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How about raising the turn?

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This was the original plan. I guess I didn't like the heart.


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thats exactly why i think you should cap the flop. if youre going to miss out on value when like 1/3 of the deck comes off, then just pump the pot when you know youre best
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