A3s 300/600 sorta weird line

[Chris Daddy Cool]

i do this from time to time. doing strange plays can be good for metagame/image and for actual hand strategy too.

it allows him to value bet more courageously with a pocketpair and at the same time you can avoid getting checkraised and calling down the loser the times he has you crushed.

[supersub]

stupid question maybe, but do you ever do this without an Ace, KK or QQ?

[MarkD]

I hope you will expound on your reasoning here a little when you respond.

If you take this line on the flop then I think you must:
- be betting the turn if checked to
- calling the turn if bet into

I assume your reasoning is to let the solid (ie. agressive) player value bet your hand for you when you are ahead and minimize your losses when he has a bigger ace (a not so small amount of the time).

ps. I'm trying to more fully understand the play and this is why I am expounding my thoughts. I'm not doing it to tell you how to play.

[stoxtrader]

stupid question maybe, but do you ever do this without an Ace, KK or QQ?

great point, and I think yes, with those two exact hands.

[mike l.]

that's tommy style and i like it. youre putting in two big bets more on this hand period, unless you let him c/r you on a street and you pay off. but this is not good to do if youll never check behind here with other hands, both of value and complete misses.

[LarsVegas]

Coolade is a World Series of Poker bracelet holder and a CardPlayer columnist.

Oh, and if you insist on translating £150/300 into some dollar-stakes, it's much closer to $250/500 than $300/600.

lars

[mike l.]

"Coolade is a World Series of Poker bracelet holder and a CardPlayer columnist."

is it roy west? i think it must be roy west. "cmon in and have some fried chicken y'all...we're gonna talk about a 50cent-$1 stud hand!"

"Oh, and if you insist on translating £150/300 into some dollar-stakes, it's much closer to $250/500 than $300/600."

oh well in that case you should bet the flop bk. that changes everything.

[arod15]

So you were going for the checkraise. Regardless of what hits bet and 3-bet the turn. I think your ahead here.....

[piggity]

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Oh, and if you insist on translating £150/300 into some dollar-stakes, it's much closer to $250/500 than $300/600.


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Using very recent prices, yes. However, if you were to take, say, the average exchange rate for this year, it would actually come out to around $275/$550, so rounding to $300/$600 isn't *too* bad.

[LarsVegas]

Preflop: Button vs small blind confrontations between two solid, aggressive players consists of so much marginal aggression that even at the limits I play (ten times lower), a suited Ace is very good candidate for a cap. I think AK-AJ, ATs, KQs and pairs above sixes should be capped here every time. And other decent hands like baby pairs, suited aces and strong kings (especially suited) should be capped a large portion of the time, somewhere between 40-70%. So preflop is fine.

The flop check is fine too, as I suppose you would be betting a strong Ace here every time.

lars