Poorly played flush

Taciturn · #1 10-01-2005, 09:53 AM

I know the turn play is especially bad -- Do you call the river? I couldn't really see him betting anything less than a bigger flush this way. (I had recently sat down, no stats on him).

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Button ($49.25)
SB ($55.65)
Hero ($49.25)
UTG ($52.10)
MP ($57.12)
CO ($46.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.5, MP calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50.

Turn: ($6.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Button bets $10, Hero calls $10, UTG folds, MP folds.

River: ($26.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button calls $37.75 (All-In), Hero ...

trumpman84 · #2 10-01-2005, 09:56 AM

..pot-commits himself on the turn with a large raise and doesn't have a river decision.

I call here.

#3 10-01-2005, 10:05 AM

This online right?

Does this player bluff? Has he ever got out of line? Now I'm leaning towards calling - simply because of the play of betting $10 on the turn into a pot of.. what, not much, unless here is someone who bets according to the strength of their hand.

He's also shortstacked; which is another consideration I take into account here. Now the possibility of the player making a play is considerably heightened.

Crying call.

kitaristi0 · #4 10-01-2005, 10:05 AM

... instacalls.

stueydakid · #5 10-01-2005, 10:06 AM

The hand was played poorly from the start. I dont like calling pre-flop raises out of position. You obviously have the villain killed on the turn. He has TPTK most likely. I like to bet in front of him on the turn and hope to get raised. This is a good spot to get your money all in just in case he cant get away from his hand. If he shows you a higher flush...tough luck, thats poker. I do not like checking and calling in this situation.

BBD · #6 10-01-2005, 10:08 AM

I think you have to call the river bet. I'm not sure button really has it here. Anyone raise flop w/ the flush + gutshot draws? Raise turn for sure.

hockeyf · #7 10-01-2005, 11:33 AM

Call ? whats the question, you induced a big bet on the river, i want that guy to push when i have the flush, instacall, if he has a bigger flush so be it.

Morrek · #8 10-01-2005, 11:43 AM

Fold preflop, bet/raise flop. Then the hand is played quite differently. As played I think he has higher flush because first he minbets flop then overbets when the flush hits, people are usually pretty straightforward on these levels.

yvesaint · #9 10-01-2005, 12:02 PM

if you're going to call the turn, you call the river

if you're going to call the turn, bet the turn instead

if you really, really insist on calling the turn, check-raise it instead

theben · #10 10-01-2005, 12:49 PM

i call