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Taciturn 10-01-2005 09:53 AM

Poorly played flush
 
I know the turn play is especially bad -- Do you call the river? I couldn't really see him betting anything less than a bigger flush this way. (I had recently sat down, no stats on him).


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Button ($49.25)
SB ($55.65)
Hero ($49.25)
UTG ($52.10)
MP ($57.12)
CO ($46.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.5</font>, MP calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50.

Turn: ($6.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10, UTG folds, MP folds.

River: ($26.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button calls $37.75 (All-In), Hero ...

trumpman84 10-01-2005 09:56 AM

Re: Poorly played flush
 
..pot-commits himself on the turn with a large raise and doesn't have a river decision.

I call here.

10-01-2005 10:05 AM

Re: Poorly played flush
 
This online right?

Does this player bluff? Has he ever got out of line? Now I'm leaning towards calling - simply because of the play of betting $10 on the turn into a pot of.. what, not much, unless here is someone who bets according to the strength of their hand.

He's also shortstacked; which is another consideration I take into account here. Now the possibility of the player making a play is considerably heightened.

Crying call.

kitaristi0 10-01-2005 10:05 AM

Re: Poorly played flush
 
... instacalls.

stueydakid 10-01-2005 10:06 AM

Re: Poorly played flush
 
The hand was played poorly from the start. I dont like calling pre-flop raises out of position. You obviously have the villain killed on the turn. He has TPTK most likely. I like to bet in front of him on the turn and hope to get raised. This is a good spot to get your money all in just in case he cant get away from his hand. If he shows you a higher flush...tough luck, thats poker. I do not like checking and calling in this situation.

BBD 10-01-2005 10:08 AM

Re: Poorly played flush
 
I think you have to call the river bet. I'm not sure button really has it here. Anyone raise flop w/ the flush + gutshot draws? Raise turn for sure.

hockeyf 10-01-2005 11:33 AM

Re: Poorly played flush
 
Call ? whats the question, you induced a big bet on the river, i want that guy to push when i have the flush, instacall, if he has a bigger flush so be it.

Morrek 10-01-2005 11:43 AM

Re: Poorly played flush
 
Fold preflop, bet/raise flop. Then the hand is played quite differently. As played I think he has higher flush because first he minbets flop then overbets when the flush hits, people are usually pretty straightforward on these levels.

yvesaint 10-01-2005 12:02 PM

Re: Poorly played flush
 
if you're going to call the turn, you call the river

if you're going to call the turn, bet the turn instead

if you really, really insist on calling the turn, check-raise it instead

theben 10-01-2005 12:49 PM

Re: Poorly played flush
 
i call


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