Posted in MP3 got 88

[Todd]

This one area where I have a lot of problems. When I 3-Bet pre-flop (like here w/ 88 or TT or even JJ), and then the flop has paint. What then?

I havent come up with a solution.

Todd

[istewart]

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I really hate the PF smooth-call. There are just soooooo many great reasons to raise here. Furthermore, if you don't have a read to 3-bet then I'm guessing you didn't have reads to think that 3 out of 4 players left to act were going to call 2 cold and even then you probably want all 4 and what if one of them would've 3-bet (especially the CO/Button).

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He can't fold, he posted a blind.

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It's been raised. And even if it wasn't he, technically, could still fold.(EDIT: Unless there's something weird about Crypto's software - I don't play there.)

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I know it's been raised. How does that make folding an option?

It's not like he's cold-calling and has to expect others to come in behind him in order to play.

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on crypto 2/4, EP raises are usually big hands here

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Given this, why do people want to 3-bet? If this guy is unknown, I guess it would really come down to PFR% of your average Crypto player, and how especially if they have tighter standards UTG and UTG+1.

I just remember when I tried to play at AbsolutePoker and all the players were really rockish ABC players and there EP raises meant AA-QQ and AK. Given that, I call preflop, hope to hit our set, if not maybe take a crack at it if it's a favorable flop for us. Don't know if it's too weak tight, but I was thinking I would fold to the flop 3-bet or turn donk.

[crunchy1]

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I know it's been raised. How does that make folding an option?
It's not like he's cold-calling and has to expect others to come in behind him in order to play.

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Now I understand your point. I still like 3-betting better than calling. Buying the button, knocking out overcards, taking initiative if UTG has a big-ace hand. I'm not sure if there is really a huge difference between calling and raising but I prefer to be the aggressor in this situation.

[istewart]

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I know it's been raised. How does that make folding an option?
It's not like he's cold-calling and has to expect others to come in behind him in order to play.

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Now I understand your point. I still like 3-betting better than calling. Buying the button, knocking out overcards, taking initiative if UTG has a big-ace hand. I'm not sure if there is really a huge difference between calling and raising but I prefer to be the aggressor in this situation.

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Yep.

[Fat Nicky]

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A lone 6 beats me on the river while it doesn't on the turn...

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okay, but lets logically think at to how that 6 can hurt you. YOu said that the villian raises with good hands, so how does the 6 change anything, it doesn't

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The villain in this hand is not the pf raiser, it's the BB who had to just call a small bet to see a flop, so his hand range is quite wide.

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A lone 6 beats me on the river while it doesn't on the turn...

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okay, but lets logically think at to how that 6 can hurt you. YOu said that the villian raises with good hands, so how does the 6 change anything, it doesn't

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The villain in this hand is not the pf raiser, it's the BB who had to just call a small bet to see a flop, so his hand range is quite wide.

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Wow I missed that too. Ignore my posts at the bottom.

[MattC]

whats the minimum you guys 3 bet with, 77?

[thesharpie]

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whats the minimum you guys 3 bet with, 77?

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I wouldn't go any lower than 88 on Crytpo. I'd pop 88 in a heartbeat on Party 2/4, and I'm not sure about 77. Obviously I'd do all of these on both sites if it was a LMP raiser.

[mtdoak]

3 bet this preflop. Isolate and maximize your chances of winning.