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Old 08-26-2005, 02:14 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble Hand

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If I'm making any raise that isn't allin, I have a group 1 hand 100% of the time. And that fact is probably why I never make such a minraise anyway.

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My original post specified that the pre-flop min-raise was being used with regularity at this table as until an orbit or so prior the stacks were very shallow.

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Then this is an obvious push...
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Old 08-26-2005, 02:18 PM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble Hand

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If I'm making any raise that isn't allin, I have a group 1 hand 100% of the time. And that fact is probably why I never make such a minraise anyway.

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My original post specified that the pre-flop min-raise was being used with regularity at this table as until an orbit or so prior the stacks were very shallow.

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Then this is an obvious push...

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pretty standard push.
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Old 08-26-2005, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble Hand

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My original post specified that the pre-flop min-raise was being used with regularity at this table as until an orbit or so prior the stacks were very shallow.

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Ok, this info wasn't in your original post when i first responded (see first response in this thread) ... in that case, I can understand the push.
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Old 08-26-2005, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble Hand

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so why didn't he?

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Because he's:

1) A donk
2) Trapping

You can't discount #1. And that's why I said in my other post I would have to have some sort of read on MP before coming over the top here.

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I wouldn't completely discount #1 but, as you said, absent corroborating evidence, my default assumption would be #2.

(see my original post in this thread).
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Results

Villain called time and then let his time bank tick off for a bit before folding.
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Old 08-27-2005, 09:32 AM
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Fine if you have a good read on MP. I generally just push with 10xBB, bubble or not. However, if I had a big pair, I might miniraise hoping a big stack would try to steal.
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Old 08-27-2005, 12:07 PM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble Hand

Sorry for the hijack-
I agree with the push, but was wondering what everyone would do had the SB called. At first I thought it would make it an easier push for a few reasons: 1. you gain extra FE (on the sidepot chips) because MP will think "I'll get to see his cards anyways" 2. You may keep the bubble lasting longer if you get MP to fold, and can therefore exploit the bubble longer. However when you get him to fold you dont immediately gain 10k chips vs folding, you only gain 3k+equity in main pot, so the reward is lower. Anybody have thoughts on this?
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Old 08-27-2005, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble Hand

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Sorry for the hijack-
I agree with the push, but was wondering what everyone would do had the SB called. At first I thought it would make it an easier push for a few reasons: 1. you gain extra FE (on the sidepot chips) because MP will think "I'll get to see his cards anyways" 2. You may keep the bubble lasting longer if you get MP to fold, and can therefore exploit the bubble longer. However when you get him to fold you dont immediately gain 10k chips vs folding, you only gain 3k+equity in main pot, so the reward is lower. Anybody have thoughts on this?

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I'm more inclined to do it just so I have more bubble bursting time if I happen to lose
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