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Old 08-20-2005, 06:42 PM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

the dealer needs to let the player involved call the string bet. if you aren't in the hand, simple STFU.
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

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the dealer needs to let the player involved call the string bet. if you aren't in the hand, simple STFU.

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which i did and i aggree thats what annoyed me, other people talking.
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:53 PM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

A. I hate the "a player has to object to a string raise before the dealer enforces the rule" rule. Either it is a legal raise, or it isn't. Forcing the players in the hand to speak up causes too many problems for me.

B. Once the Floor was called over, it was his responsibility to get the facts straight. That includes taking input from players not invoved in the hand, but who were paying attention (possibly better than the dealer...). If you didn't want to get involved, don't complain about the final decision that you contributed zero to.

C. By the way, sorry about your car. I saw a guy break in and take the stereo. I would have said something, but, hey, the casino does have security, and it wasn't like it was my car. I'm sure you have insurance.
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Old 08-20-2005, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

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A. I hate the "a player has to object to a string raise before the dealer enforces the rule" rule. Either it is a legal raise, or it isn't. Forcing the players in the hand to speak up causes too many problems for me.

B. Once the Floor was called over, it was his responsibility to get the facts straight. That includes taking input from players not invoved in the hand, but who were paying attention (possibly better than the dealer...). If you didn't want to get involved, don't complain about the final decision that you contributed zero to.

C. By the way, sorry about your car. I saw a guy break in and take the stereo. I would have said something, but, hey, the casino does have security, and it wasn't like it was my car. I'm sure you have insurance.

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really i dont care much for the result, i was just curious as if i should have spoken up or not. And the floor never asked for their oppions they just spoke.
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Old 08-21-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

--Am I the only one who does NOT think this is a string bet?

--Since when is the dealer not allowed to call a string bet? I know that there's a famous post out there where Annie Duke chews out a dealer for this. But she doesn't make the rules. Outside of that post, I've never seen any reference to this so-called "rule".

--When you typed up the original post, were you drunk? That post was as unintellible as Chinese algebra.
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Old 08-21-2005, 01:19 AM
IgorSmiles IgorSmiles is offline
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

Dealers are not supposed to call string bets.

Sometimes, slamming your chips down is an angleshoot. Not sure if that was the case here. But it does sound a little stringy to me.
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Old 08-21-2005, 01:19 AM
IgorSmiles IgorSmiles is offline
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

PS: I rarely speak up if I'm not involved in the hand.
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Old 08-21-2005, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

IMO, the best players to speak are those NOT in the hand. The guys in the hand (including the dealer, if his error is the source of the dispute) have an obvious vested interest in the result.

The dealer should be the only person involved in the discussion but some of them are so bad that they cannot be relied upon to give an accurate description of the actions.

I was once in the 1 seat and there was a disputed hand that I was not involved in. The dealer said the player mucked his cards and I said they were face up and close to the muck. I then went on to say that not only were they face up and she was wrong but she never turned them over and they are STILL face up in the deck.

The floor listened to the players and dealer for a good 5 minutes. I said to the floor..."this has gone on way too long and I've told you that the cards are still face up...if you want to end this now have the dealer spread the cards and you will find that the only two cards that are face up are those the player turned over close to the muck." Of course the cards were still face up and the opposing player ended up being kicked out of the casino because the pot had been shipped to him and he wouldn't return the money.

Whether the floor can rule that the money can be given to another player after the pot was awarded to someone else is a different story but the bottom line is that at least 3 players not in the pot saw the guy turn over the winning hand and the dealer muck his cards and push the pot to the losing player.

2 of the 3 parties involved in the hand who spoke with the floor the most had it all wrong. Only the unbiased players with nothing to gain could be relied upon to tell the story as it happened.
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Old 08-21-2005, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

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Dealers are not supposed to call string bets.

Sometimes, slamming your chips down is an angleshoot. Not sure if that was the case here. But it does sound a little stringy to me.

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It depends on where you are. There are many venues (smallish games in Vegas and Tunica both comes to mind) where the dealer is required to call string bets and not allow them.
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: String bet in a big hand should i speak up?

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A. I hate the "a player has to object to a string raise before the dealer enforces the rule" rule. Either it is a legal raise, or it isn't. Forcing the players in the hand to speak up causes too many problems for me.

B. Once the Floor was called over, it was his responsibility to get the facts straight. That includes taking input from players not invoved in the hand, but who were paying attention (possibly better than the dealer...). If you didn't want to get involved, don't complain about the final decision that you contributed zero to.

C. By the way, sorry about your car. I saw a guy break in and take the stereo. I would have said something, but, hey, the casino does have security, and it wasn't like it was my car. I'm sure you have insurance.

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However i guess its better to be the guy who tried to stop the robber and got shot 5 times with a hand gun he had in his pocket at point blank range, over a 500 dollar stero.

"IM BLEEDING"
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