PLO8 Flop/turn fold equity con't from Ribbo's post.

[Wintermute]

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From my understanding, check-calling the flop with top set and then putting serious money in on the turn when a safe card hits is a fairly standard way to play it when:

1) there are two low cards on the board
2) there is a two flush on the board
3) the board is highly coordinated

I play this way against idiots and good players. you disguise your hand against good players and the idiots will still chase their draw for one card. a CR on the flop just screams "set" to anyone who isn't a dumbass.

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The lower limit games are definitely heavily populated by dumbasses though. Unless stacks are very deep, with opponents I respect, I generally will get as much in on the flop as possible with top set. I don't believe there's as much value in disguising your hand against someone who isn't even capable of trying to make a read on you. Look at Ribbo's hand post in this thread for example. With players making calls that bad (esp. the all-in calls on the turn) it might be an EV-losing play to play a top set hand the way it would be best played at higher limits.

Basically, I'm saying you're too good for your own good. Unless you take your game straight to the $600/1k/2k levels. Then you might feel right at home.

[mxyzptlk]

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From my understanding, check-calling the flop with top set and then putting serious money in on the turn when a safe card hits is a fairly standard way to play it when:

1) there are two low cards on the board
2) there is a two flush on the board
3) the board is highly coordinated

I play this way against idiots and good players. you disguise your hand against good players and the idiots will still chase their draw for one card. a CR on the flop just screams "set" to anyone who isn't a dumbass.

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The lower limit games are definitely heavily populated by dumbasses though. Unless stacks are very deep, with opponents I respect, I generally will get as much in on the flop as possible with top set. I don't believe there's as much value in disguising your hand against someone who isn't even capable of trying to make a read on you. Look at Ribbo's hand post in this thread for example. With players making calls that bad (esp. the all-in calls on the turn) it might be an EV-losing play to play a top set hand the way it would be best played at higher limits.

Basically, I'm saying you're too good for your own good. Unless you take your game straight to the $600/1k/2k levels. Then you might feel right at home.

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is that a taunt to get me to the higher level games? I'll get there in time.

notice, i did say "against GOOD players you disguise your hand". I did this against a donk today and he RERAISED me on the turn. couldn't have worked out better.

[Ribbo]

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notice, i did say "against GOOD players you disguise your hand". I did this against a donk today and he RERAISED me on the turn. couldn't have worked out better.

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I think you overestimate exactly how many 'good players' play the game. Plus a good player doesn't have to fold anyway, he just needs a good enough draw (one significantly better than a gutshot straight and runner runner low on the flop).