button/blinds preflop quiz!!

[baronzeus]

You are way too tight and losing lots of value as it is.

[bottomset]

In this hand, there is a raiser and 2 cold callers, and you are on the button, with somewhat loose blinds (you can expect at least one to come along)

1:
a. JTo fold
b. 65s fold
c. 89s call
d. AJo a mix depending on how the players play postflop
e. 33 call
f. 99 usually 3bet, sometimes call
g. 78o fold

In this hand, you are in the SB, and there is again a raiser and 2 cold callers, and a loose BB.
2.
a. JTo fold
b. 65s call
c. 89s call
d. AJo not really sure
e. 33 call
f. 99 usually call, sometimes 3bet
g. 78o fold
h. 57s call

In this hand, you are the BB, and there has been a raiser and 3 cold callers

3.
a. 47s call
b. 56o call
c. K9o meh, call
d. 32s call
e. JTo call
f. 98o call
g. 97o call
h. 46s call

edit: heh. deja vu. for each option, raise call or fold...

[2moreTerps]

Say you're in a loose game, with 4-5 players seeing a flop.

In this hand, there is a raiser and 2 cold callers, and you are on the button, with somewhat loose blinds (you can expect at least one to come along)

1:
a. JTo - fold
b. 65s - fold
c. 89s - call
d. AJo - fold
e. 33 - call
f. 99 - call (i'm not good enough to three-bet)
g. 78o - fold

In this hand, you are in the SB, and there is again a raiser and 2 cold callers, and a loose BB.
2.
a. JTo - fold
b. 65s - call
c. 89s - call
d. AJo - fold
e. 33 - call
f. 99 - call
g. 78o - fold
h. 57s - fold

In this hand, you are the BB, and there has been a raiser and 3 cold callers

3.
a. 47s - call
b. 56o - fold
c. K9o - fold
d. 32s - fold
e. JTo - call
f. 98o - fold
g. 97o - fold
h. 46s - call

[tiltaholic]

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I think your last line of actions when your on the bb may be loose. Although you can play hands like 47s and such for one more bet while everyone else paid 2 due to pot odds, the hand still sucks, and your hoping for a monster flop. I disagree with normal 2+2 play here though. A crappy hand is still a crappy hand, even if the pot is huge, with 47, you need a boat or flush to be a solid winner. I dont count on 2 gappers for str8s. These hands end up getting people caught up in crap calls. The BB and SB used to be leaky for me, but my new philo is that the pots I rake are massive compared to what a tight blind call or 2 looses me.

cdl

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hey

yes, crappy hands are crappy hands. but remember to keep the situation in mind when determining what your "crappy hand" is worth. lottery tickets are crappy. you have a better chance of sleeping with some unattainable hot girl than winning the jackpot. but if i gave you a free lottery ticket for a one million dollar prize would you take it and play?

you're getting 8:1 on this call from the BB. true, you won't flop a great hand all the time, but how often will we flop a monster or a monster draw?

personally, i find the suited hands exponentially easier to play in this fashion (out of the bb to a raise) than the non-suited...but if i were better i might call even more hands.

I think these hands are largely deopendent on postflop play skill level. I may consider calling some of these hands, (ony suited to start). If I do play them, its flush or str8 draw, 2 pr or autofold, to many people getting caught in a hand with 57 hitting top pair and being wb to an overpair like 88 or 99. They arent going to ruin a game, but they arent my favorites, and if played poorly postflop, they can bang up your winrate.

Also, they arent free...theyre like half price compared to others, your still calling a full bet to complete!
If the lotto made everyone else pay 2 bucks, and I could still get my tickets at 1$, I still wouldnt buy the damn things
cdl

[aces_dad]

Say you're in a loose game, with 4-5 players seeing a flop.

In this hand, there is a raiser and 2 cold callers, and you are on the button, with somewhat loose blinds (you can expect at least one to come along)

1:
a. JTo - fold
b. 65s - fold
c. 89s - call
d. AJo - fold (this is a tough one to let go with position against loose players but afraid of TP domination as even loose players sometimes just cc with AQ etc)
e. 33 - call
f. 99 - 3bet unless I read raiser as tighty then call
g. 78o - fold

In this hand, you are in the SB, and there is again a raiser and 2 cold callers, and a loose BB.
2.
a. JTo - call
b. 65s - fold
c. 89s - call
d. AJo - call and play TPJK cautiously here
e. 33 - call
f. 99 - call / 3bet depending upon reads
g. 78o - fold
h. 57s - fold

In this hand, you are the BB, and there has been a raiser and 3 cold callers

3.
a. 47s - fold
b. 56o - fold
c. K9o - fold
d. 32s - fold
e. JTo - call
f. 98o - call
g. 97o - fold
h. 46s - fold

Edit: I've been playing only 6max lately and it is not common to see 4-5 to a flop so I think I'm devaluing the suited / connected low cards more than I used to in full ring.

which hands are you opening up to here?
I play 6 max, and my vpip keeps at about 26%, tiltaholic can verify that...
cdl

humm your right, I am to tight according to others posts assuming they are correct in play. Sometime I add the suited connectors, but I play 6 max, and I keep my vpip around 26%, should it be higher than that? Say like 30? My plays depend largely on the table dynamics, I use GT+ to get good reads on whos raising and what hand they likely have... Maybe this is a leak>? As always I appreciate your posts

cdl

[Eeegah]

1. 98s for sure, I don't care for 65s here. 99 is a possibility if you're feeling frisky. We're likely getting 5 to 1 here though, so 33 probably isn't going to cut it.

2. 99 and 33, and that's as far as I go.

3. None of the above.

Goddamn right I play tight.

Edit: these are all calls BTW, no reraises. And for the record, wanna know how many times I've genuinely called 2 cold preflop in the last 25k hands? Six.

[tiltaholic]

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