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Old 05-21-2005, 08:47 AM
Imperial Imperial is offline
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Default Re: Thoughts on line 5/10 6max party

Because hero is shortstacked I agree that the turn check is ok, if he had a full buy in he should bet the turn. How do you know villian is'nt folding??? Because hero minraised the flop and got called? His draw is not so big with one card to come and you have to win pots like this without always hitting your flush/str...
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Old 05-21-2005, 08:49 AM
Yeti Yeti is offline
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Default Re: Thoughts on line 5/10 6max party

You should really raise more on this flop. I'd check the turn too at least 70% of the time.
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Old 05-21-2005, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Thoughts on line 5/10 6max party

i mean i agree but i dont openlimp with anything on the button so i think the fact that someone does A3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or so or 22 is def within that range
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Old 05-21-2005, 02:49 PM
RollaJ RollaJ is offline
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Default Re: Thoughts on line 5/10 6max party

Nothing wrong with preflop IMHO
Id make it 125 or so on the flop. That should get rid of KK, QQ and a raggedy Jack.
If he called an 80 raise on the flop Id check the turn 104% of the times I missed.
On the river you played it perfectly, as that size raise will get called by a lot of hands, as low as a pair of jacks


Basically it seems like a rather standard hand/play
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:50 PM
Twentysack Twentysack is offline
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Default Re: Thoughts on line 5/10 6max party

Villian ended up showing KQc for a rivered straight... I guess i shoulda popped the flop more looking back on it. Any more thoughts on the river?

PS. funny convo with villian afterwards
Villian: you XXXXin XXXXX
Me: ?
Villian: johnny chaser
Me: you looked like you were chasing something too?
Villian: i made my hand
Me: so did i?
Villian: before you XXXXface
Villian: sorry when did the ten of DIAMONDS fall?
Me: the 6th street?

Later on i stacked him when i flopped bottom set vs his top two, no complaints there :P
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Old 05-21-2005, 10:17 PM
jrforman jrforman is offline
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Default Re: Thoughts on line 5/10 6max party

Too lazy to read all posts, so if this has been said or better advice has been given, feel free to disregard...I really hate the min raise on the river...At this point your raising here beacuse you think you have the best hand...Therefore I would raise 3x his bet and if you lose to a bigger flush so be it...
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:21 AM
BluffTHIS! BluffTHIS! is offline
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Default Re: Thoughts on line 5/10 6max party

I agree with banker that checking the turn behind is the superior play here so as not to get checkraised off a good draw, together with having position that may allow you to bluff if it misses, as the opponent does not have to have an ace and may fold to a river bet. I also agree with jrforman about the amount of the river raise. He either is not going to call any raise or he is going to call more than a min raise so you should milk it for as much as you think he would call with various hands. And if you're worried about a higher flush in a headsup short-handed table situation then take a box of ex-lax.
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Old 05-22-2005, 06:37 AM
emil3000 emil3000 is offline
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Default Re: Thoughts on line 5/10 6max party

I really don't agree with the "He will call any raise or no raise" sentiments. In this case I think he could be milked for a bit more, maybe 150 or something, but hero's hand is really obvious. Unless he is a total donk he is not calling anything big.
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