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Old 05-17-2005, 05:42 AM
dozer dozer is offline
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

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Another reason I didn't cap the flop was because I wasn't afraid of any flush draws at the time.
I thought I read somewhere to wait till the turn to get your big raises in? Is that concept for HU action?
Besides if I cap the flop will I get bet into again on the turn?
This table was loose but not excessively if that makes any difference.
I realize I pussed out on the river i felt it at the time to, but AQ and the runner-runner flush possiblility made me a bit wary.

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Pre-flop is ok,

You must cap this flop, you have everyone trapped for one more bet. Waiting for the turn to raise is for when you have a vulnerable hand that can't be protected with a flop raise, so you wait for the turn to raise when a safe card falls I think.

I would bet this river for value. I doubt someone has AQ since there was no preflop raise. I think someone would bet if they hit thier runner runner flush, instead of going for a checkraise.
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:57 AM
Stinkybeaver Stinkybeaver is offline
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

I'd value bet the river. I think the chances of you gettin beat by a flush are possible but small.

REst is fine
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Old 05-17-2005, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

Agnus Dei, qui tolis peccata mundi, dona eis requiem.
Agnus Dei, qui tolis peccata mundi, dona eis requiem.
Agnus Dei, qui tolis peccata mundi, dona eis requiem, sempiternam.


In loving memory of the kittens the Lord struck down for not betting this river.
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Old 05-17-2005, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

Easy bet on the river.
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Old 05-17-2005, 10:11 AM
mlb3zr mlb3zr is offline
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

Yes, bet the river. No pfr makes AQ unlikely. Runner/runner flush would suck, but you can't always be afraid of it.

I'd cap the flop because it sure looks like nobody is going away for one more bet. The other reason is because even though people are betting and raising now, you don't know if they will continue on the turn, especially when something like a king or ace falls.
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Old 05-17-2005, 10:44 AM
txdolly txdolly is offline
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

Bet the river. You may get overcalls from weaker hands.
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Old 05-17-2005, 10:50 AM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

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Cap the flop. You're next-to-last to act, and everybody's stayed in so far, nobody will fold for one more. If you're going to lose bets on the Turn, it's going to be because you suddenly show aggression, not because you're continuing aggression you showed on the flop. And, in this field, I'm thinking it's unlikely that anybody's going to notice your coldcall-cap.

Bet the river. Nobody's going that nuts on the flop on a flush draw, and, excluding a flush, you're holding the second nuts, and it's been checked to you. Bet and save Wookie's kitten.

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Old 05-17-2005, 10:54 AM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

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Whoops. OK, I guess someone could have AQ for a higher straight. Its still a value bet though.

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He's got the second nut straight. There are, what, 45 possible flushes?
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Old 05-17-2005, 10:55 AM
jrz1972 jrz1972 is offline
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

Q9s is a perfectly fine pf limp from the CO with a couple of limpers.

Don't slowplay flopped straights. They can get ruined in a hurry. Cap the flop, bet/raise the turn, and bet the river.
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Old 05-17-2005, 11:02 AM
Marquis Marquis is offline
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Default Re: Should I valuebet the river on this multi-way pot?

I don't get why everyone is advocating capping the flop. You should 3-bet it. You shouldn't be in position to cap it.
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