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Old 05-15-2005, 02:26 PM
kapw7 kapw7 is offline
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Default Re: An Ed Miller fold or a Lee Jones fold?

With so many limpers PF it's a sin not to raise with ATs. I would even raise with 65s or something similar.

As the button cold called 2 bets I wouldn't like to 3-bet the flop and I would fold the turn as you did. Is this weak? I've lost money lately with SO many paired boards being dealt. But this is Party. What can you say?
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Old 05-15-2005, 03:14 PM
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I would seriously consider raising this pre-flop.

I would think you would want to 3 bet this flop and lead the turn when the second 7 falls.

You need to bet this turn though. You don't have anything to fear from A3 now and the there are only two 7's left that can beat you.
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Old 05-15-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: An Ed Miller fold or a Lee Jones fold?

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absent reads i'd have called this down.
if button is very passive you can probably fold this safely, but i'd need a read saying exactly that before i folded.

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Button cold called the flop, and then raised the turn when the board paired. I think calling two cold on the turn here is giving up too much. I like his fold. But like many other said, I don't like how he got there.

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on further consideration you're probably right, especially considering hero isn't closing the betting here.
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Old 05-15-2005, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: An Ed Miller fold or a Lee Jones fold?

You need to raise this preflop. And you need to 3 bet the flop. The hand will play completely differently.
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Old 05-15-2005, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: An Ed Miller fold or a Lee Jones fold?

3 bet flop. if capped id check/fold unimproved. if called id lead the turn.
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Old 05-15-2005, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: An Ed Miller fold or a Lee Jones fold?

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Raise pre-flop!!!
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Old 05-15-2005, 10:29 PM
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You are ahead of everything except A7 and A3.

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Are you kidding?
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Old 05-15-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: An Ed Miller fold or a Lee Jones fold?

Grunched:
Preflop this is a clear raise for value.

Flop - Why is this a marginal situation? You have TPDK on a draw-less flop w/no preflop action. The bet is good here. MP1 helped to protect, good. I'd 3 bet see if MP1 caps. If not I'd lead the turn.

Turn - Button wakeing up is scary. Looks like trips. The way you played it: normally passive, fold; normally aggresive - call down.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: An Ed Miller fold or a Lee Jones fold?

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You are ahead of everything except A7 and A3.

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Are you kidding?

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haha i was thinking the same way

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Old 05-16-2005, 05:29 AM
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In the old days I would probably 3-bet this. I didn't do that here because I'm trying to stop spewing.


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3 bet this. You are ahead of everything except A7 and A3.

Turn is kind of tricky. Depends on what kind of player MP1 is. I think I call the 2 though.

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this is the second thread where i've seen you forget about a number of hands hero is behind to, either you are assuming that they can't be possible or you are making a big mistake

AJ-AK are possible, not likely but still very possible
77 and 33 likewise
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