An Ed Miller fold or a Lee Jones fold?

[chopper77]

I've still got a lot of work to do on my game- I question myself in marginal situations. Thoughts on this? No reads, 3rd hand at the table.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

In the old days I would probably 3-bet this. I didn't do that here because I'm trying to stop spewing.

Turn: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero folds, MP1 calls.

Facing 2 cold on the turn with top pair medium kicker and a paired board I figured this was an easy fold. Right?!!!

River: (10 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 10 BB

[MrWookie47]

Raise preflop, and I probably 3bet the flop.

[wyoak]

absent reads i'd have called this down.
if button is very passive you can probably fold this safely, but i'd need a read saying exactly that before i folded.

[btspider]

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Raise preflop, and I probably 3bet the flop.

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turn fold is alright, but i don't like how you got there. your kicker may not play on some rivers, so you only get half the pot some of the time you had the best hand.

[aron]

grunching

To me this is a Miller fold. The pot isn't very big and with that turn raise button is pretty much telling you that he has a 7.
(Then his river check indicates that he didn't, darn)
Even if you call the turn you have to worry about MP1 making it 3 bets.

I think i would have been leading that turn instead of checking. And also I would have raised this PF.

-aron

[chopper77]

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Raise preflop, and I probably 3bet the flop.

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Thank you. I knew I have been playing like a little girl lately. I'm still working on it.

[Buckmulligan]

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In the old days I would probably 3-bet this. I didn't do that here because I'm trying to stop spewing.


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3 bet this. You are ahead of everything except A7 and A3.

Turn is kind of tricky. Depends on what kind of player MP1 is. I think I call the 2 though.

[afk]

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absent reads i'd have called this down.
if button is very passive you can probably fold this safely, but i'd need a read saying exactly that before i folded.

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Button cold called the flop, and then raised the turn when the board paired. I think calling two cold on the turn here is giving up too much. I like his fold. But like many other said, I don't like how he got there.

[Buckmulligan]

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Button cold called the flop, and then raised the turn when the board paired. I think calling two cold on the turn here is giving up too much. I like his fold. But like many other said, I don't like how he got there.

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What range of hands do you put button on? I'm not saying that a fold is incorrect here, but I think we need to consider a call. Do you think button calls the 2 cold on the flop with 7x? do you think he calls with two pair? A7 is the only hand he has that we are behind against, and i don't think he has it based on the way he played that flop.

[afk]

How about 33 or (unlikely) 77? I can see these hands being played like this. Hero is getting 9:2 immediate when it gets to him and is probably looking at something like 12:3 to call down . I think it's thin since the board is paired.