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Old 04-25-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: KJs on a capped pre-flop

My initial thought was to fold here when it is capped preflop, but pokerstove shows you have around 20% equity here even against a solid bb capper (AK, AA-QQ). So I think you played the entire hand perfectly.

On the river I check behind because you lose 2 bets to someone that was slowplaying an overpair or calling down with an ace. Since that's about all I can put the big blind on having capped preflop I would be much more afraid of getting check/raised than of missing a value bet against an unlikely 99-TT (if bb loosened his raising standards on this one).

I think if the river had been a 6 of diamonds I would bet as you might still get called by AK or an unlikely middle pocket pair.
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Old 04-25-2005, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: KJs on a capped pre-flop

Thanks for the replies. I did check that river -- A and K were both too scary to bet out (well, A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] would have been nice), since as several folks said, any hand that beats me would at least call, if not raise, and any hand that doesn't probably folds.
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Old 04-25-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: KJs on a capped pre-flop

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what do you think he capped preflop with that wouldn't include an Ace? or a hand that beats you anyways that he was passive with and let you do the betting for him?


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If he's a donk, I put him on "I'm tired of being pushed around from this position by this player" enough times to make this bet good. I think his flop check is really fishy.

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Reference reads by OP:

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SB and BB are both somewhat tight and aggressive pre-flop, pretty neutral post-flop

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Old 04-25-2005, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: KJs on a capped pre-flop

grunching

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SB and BB are both somewhat tight and aggressive pre-flop

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based off of that, I'm partial to folding PF here, BB could have you dominated, I think its a marginal/negative EV call here getting 6:1

On the river, I like checking behind him since BB capping PF. I put him on hand groups 1-2, maybe 3 if BB is particularly "saucey". Based off his postflop play though, unless he has a horrible case of FPS, we can knock him off all PP's Jacks and up, and AJs. That still leaves 3/5 hands on the river that beat you (AQs, AKs/AK beating you, you beating TT/KQs). Take the free showdown.

Post Grunch edit - man, I must suck preflop
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: KJs on a capped pre-flop

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Post Grunch edit - man, I must suck preflop

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hahahah [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ah, the B-E-A-ooooty of grunching [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: KJs on a capped pre-flop

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Post Grunch edit - man, I must suck preflop

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Not that bad, actually. I'm quite torn between folding preflop and calling. It's an easy call if everyone else comes along but I'd fold here a reasonable portion of the time, depending on how solid I felt my reads were.

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Old 04-25-2005, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: KJs on a capped pre-flop

Time to fold pf.

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SB and BB are both somewhat tight and aggressive pre-flop

[/ QUOTE ] 3-bet and cap (especially since there were limpers).

Bet folding the river suuucks.
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