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#11
04-13-2005, 11:18 PM
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Re: I take this line alot....Good?..Bad?...Terrible?
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They all love to bet out here to test their Ace(at least this is what I always assume) Expecting me to 3-bet the flop so they can safely fold. Do you agree with my assumptions and the way I play the hand? [/ QUOTE ] In my experience, a weak ace also calls down a turn raise in these situations... Adam 
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#12
04-13-2005, 11:20 PM
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Re: I take this line alot....Good?..Bad?...Terrible?
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If you raise the turn, he calls with his spade draw and checks to you on the river then folds if he misses. You get 2 BB out of this. If you don't raise the turn, he still bluffs out with a missed spade draw and folds to a river raise. You get 2 BB out of this. [/ QUOTE ] Note the part I bolded: That's the issue isn't it? I don't know how often they bluff out with their missed draw, seeing as Hero has called all the way thus far... Adam
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#13
04-13-2005, 11:25 PM
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Re: I take this line alot....Good?..Bad?...Terrible?
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I usually raise the turn in instances like these. I hate the feeling of giving up so many cheap cards that could beat me. Discuss.... [/ QUOTE ] I mix it up, but like raising the turn most of the time here. I know it feels like you may give up something if the opponent folds, but if you raise enough the passive and average players will doubt you often enough... When I have a solid read(which usually means live games) I might be more likely to wait until the river to raise.
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#14
04-14-2005, 01:15 AM
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Re: I take this line alot....Good?..Bad?...Terrible?
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[ QUOTE ] If you raise the turn, he calls with his spade draw and checks to you on the river then folds if he misses. You get 2 BB out of this. If you don't raise the turn, he still bluffs out with a missed spade draw and folds to a river raise. You get 2 BB out of this. [/ QUOTE ] Note the part I bolded: That's the issue isn't it? I don't know how often they bluff out with their missed draw, seeing as Hero has called all the way thus far... Adam [/ QUOTE ] I agree that is the issue. In my experience I think they bluff enough with the draw, and play the rest of the hand ideally enough for the OP's line without a draw that it is a solid line to take.
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