QQ hand. Giving a free card,checking w/ outs or inducing a bluff? - Page 2

MaxPower · #11 03-29-2005, 01:09 PM

Barry,

I have noticed that many of the LAGs on Party NEVER just call the flop with flush draw. So when you make your hand on the river, you can be almost certain your hand is good.

MaxPower · #12 03-29-2005, 01:14 PM

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On the other hand, the pot is small so checking is not so bad.

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Wouldn't the fact that the pot is small make you more inclined to bet? I mean it's a bigger mistake for a weaker hand to call when the pot is small; so why not bet?

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Because the pot is small it is not as bad to give a free card. Its worth taking the small risk of being outdrawn to win one more bet. That is the exactly the time when you should induce a bluff. That is if he thinks his opponent will fold to a turn bet, which I don't think is true here.

sfer · #13 03-29-2005, 01:44 PM

I don't mind the turn check much but that looks like the second easiest river raise ever.

piocet · #14 03-29-2005, 01:47 PM

I don't get it. Everyone's saying that this QQ hand is ahead more often than not on turn. But is it true? Let's have a list.

QQ ahead of: AJ, AT, 99~77 and who knows whatever junk
QQ behind of: AK, AQ, AA-TT, KQ, KJ

I know you have to consider the flop play, but the villian's check-call on flop doesn't mean much to me unless I know him very well.

Another of my concern is that you may get check-raised by a lot of the hands that are ahead but the villian may fold a lot of the hands that are behind. I know 1.5 aggression factor is bad, but not that bad.

I check the turn.

Barry · #15 03-29-2005, 04:21 PM

On the turn, I checked as a combination of checking with outs and inducing a bluff.

On the river, in the heat of the moment, I figured that there was no value in raising as he would fold without a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and would 3 bet the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], which I would have to payoff. As I think about it more, if this was live, my play would have been correct, but online I might get called by a few worse hands. As such, I think that a raise was correct, but only by a little bit.

In any event he had AJ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and MHIG.