It Looks Like it's too Late for Casino Classic and Casino Kingdom - Page 3

toss · #21 03-08-2005, 04:43 PM

So I can still do classic under 35x? Tell me its true!!!

Nomad84 · #22 03-08-2005, 07:02 PM

If you're going to do these, do them in pounds. I profited over 280 pounds (over $540) from this group. And autoplay 1 pound (or dollar) per hand. No benefit from increasing it. You don't have to sit there and play, so you might was well reduce your variance.

Homer · #23 03-08-2005, 07:10 PM

Oh no, they raised the WR by ~20% and I have to play AC Blackjack instead of Vegas Strip and lose an extra $1.50 per $10,000 wagered. Gasp!

Jim T · #24 03-08-2005, 07:27 PM

If I'd have had my autoplay set for the default 2 I'd have busted out my bonus at Cooks too. As it was, I ended with 109 which gave me 209 to start in my deposit account. Within 450 hands, I was down to 150 and starting to get nervous. I'd already LOST 31 at CON (-231 before bonus), and wasn't liking casino whoring too much.

Now I'm about 5000 hands in and am at a much more comfortable 230.

And BTW, if it's +EV and you have a choice between USD and GBP, take GBP.

Timer · #25 03-08-2005, 08:29 PM

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Oh no, they raised the WR by ~20% and I have to play AC Blackjack instead of Vegas Strip and lose an extra $1.50 per $10,000 wagered. Gasp!

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Thanks Homer. Perhaps you could tell me: How much better is Atlantic City blackjack than downtown Vegas blackjack?

And one other thing. I'm looking for the e-mail to be positive, but I'm sure it said I had to wager 35x (this is at Cooks before the change, which I'm playing now) on the bonus amount, and then when I've accomplished that I transfer the whole amount to the real account and then play 35x times the real money deposit, which in my case was £100. In other words you wager £200 x 35 or £7000 in the bonus account and then even though you must transfer it all over you only have to play 35x £100 in the real account. I'm 95% certain of this but of course I could be wrong. Does anyone know definitively?

Thanks

toss · #26 03-08-2005, 08:34 PM

Yes only 35x your deposit in your main account. Happy whoring!

theTourne · #27 03-08-2005, 10:29 PM

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Oh no, they raised the WR by ~20% and I have to play AC Blackjack instead of Vegas Strip and lose an extra $1.50 per $10,000 wagered. Gasp!

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Homer, I understand your point, but I think it's a $15 difference (.36% HA vs .5% HA?).

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And one other thing. I'm looking for the e-mail to be positive, but I'm sure it said I had to wager 35x (this is at Cooks before the change, which I'm playing now) on the bonus amount, and then when I've accomplished that I transfer the whole amount to the real account and then play 35x times the real money deposit, which in my case was £100. In other words you wager £200 x 35 or £7000 in the bonus account and then even though you must transfer it all over you only have to play 35x £100 in the real account. I'm 95% certain of this but of course I could be wrong. Does anyone know definitively?

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According to the Casino Kingdom Terms and Conditions this is wrong. You DO need to rewager the transfered amount:

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Deposit Account:
You must wager any deposits made which enabled you to claim a bonus or promotion and (for non-VIP players only) any transfers from your Bonus Account to your Deposit Account a minimum of 42 times on most forms of Video Poker or Blackjack. (Please note that some forms of Poker and Blackjack will not contribute to the meeting of wagering requirements)

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I'm waiting for cashouts at Cooks and Classic, trying to decide if I should do Kingdom before Thursday. I'm waiting on almost $1500 in cashouts, so I'm scared of F'ing that up (by being labelled an abuser). I probably I shouldn't be scared.

Asnbabe · #28 03-08-2005, 10:49 PM

so what if you're in the middle of clearing bonus? Does none of it count then?

theTourne · #29 03-08-2005, 11:27 PM

Surprise, surprise, Homer was right and I was wrong. The AC rules HA isn't .5%, it's more like .37%. Disregard my first comment.

AncientPC · #30 03-08-2005, 11:33 PM

Wizard of Odds has Atlantic City's HA listed as 0.365% as compared to Vegas Strip's HA of 0.3606%:
http://www.wizardofodds.com/software/microgaming.html

With these new numbers, here are the bonuses for Vegas Strip and 35WR:

Captain Cooks: deposit $100 for $216 bonus.
Playthrough = ($100 + $216 + $216) * 35WR = $18,620
$216 - 0.3606% HA * $18,620 = net +$148.85

Casino Kingdom: deposit $60 for $136 bonus.
Playthrough = ($60 + $136 + $136) * 35WR = $11,620
$136 - 0.3606% HA * $11,620 = net +$94.09

Casino Classic: deposit $150 for $166 bonus.
Playthrough = ($150 + $166 + $166) * 35WR = $16,870
$166 - 0.3606% HA * $16,840 = net +$105.16

Here are the numbers for Atlantic City and 42WR:

Captain Cooks: deposit $100 for $216 bonus.
Playthrough = ($100 + $216 + $216) * 42WR = $22,344
$216 - 0.365% HA * $22,344 = net +$134.44

Casino Kingdom: deposit $60 for $136 bonus.
Playthrough = ($60 + $136 + $136) * 42WR = $13,944
$136 - 0.365% HA * $13,944 = net +$85.10

Casino Classic: deposit $150 for $166 bonus.
Playthrough = ($150 + $166 + $166) * 42WR = $20,244
$166 - 0.365% HA * $20,244 = net +$92.10

Basically the new WR reduces the bonuses by about 7-12%. Multiply the USD * 1.96 to get a rough approximation as to how much the bonus is worth if you signed up in GBP.