Someone Jumped the All-in before I could!! What to do?

[zaxx19]

Would you play 78s here?? And suited connectors..qjs?? Im just curious.

[adanthar]

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Would you play 78s here?? And suited connectors..qjs?? Im just curious.

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I'd fold QJs for sure. 87s would depend on how bad everyone else in the hand was but I'd likely fold that, too. 22, on the other hand...

[OrangeCat]

Poker stove gave the following calculations:

7s7d = 49%
Ah2h = 22%
5h4h = 16%
Ac8c = 13%

Most likely, you are at best around even money here. I would fold.

[OrangeCat]

Interesting calculation if the set is removed from the hand. The 2 pair goes from the worst to the best and your 5h4h is still the worst hand.

Ah2h = 25%
5h4h = 17 %
Ac2c = 58%

[Lloyd]

That's too narrow of a range of hands to put him on.

[Lloyd]

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Most likely, you are at best around even money here. I would fold.

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If you're even money but getting 2 to 1 odds, that sure sounds good.

[Deftoner]

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This is why I fold preflop and save myself the trouble.

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Ditto.

[37offsuit]

To me, playing big draws are about folding equity as well as chance of winning. You could be drawing to as few as 4 outs here. If you could push first, no brainer. Since someone else has pushed you have to give them credit for a hand that at least has a chance of beating yours, given that UTG has already expressed strength, a complete bluff in this situation is unlikely. Top pair and a flush draw? Top pair and a gut shot? Set or two pair? It's hard to tell. I think that without the folding equity, I'd lay this down.

[ReDeYES88]

I agree with Adanthar and others that I wouldn't have paid a tenth of my stack to see a flop with a low suited connector in this spot, even on the button. Better spots to spend your money, and the blinds aren't that dangerous at the moment. This is a point in the tourney where I want every chip I can have backing up my PF blind steals or doubling up with my made hands, not being spent on draws.

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To me, playing big draws are about folding equity as well as chance of winning.. . .I think that without the folding equity, I'd lay this down.

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37offsuit hit the essence of the thread. Add a 15 or 20% chance of your opponent folding to your 50% chance of hitting the flush + gut draw and sliding very well could be the play to make.. . you knew that when you titled your post .. except someone else beat you to it. I think you have too many chips left to call the all in when you are a flip at best.

nice fold, even though I'm guessing that UTG called the slide w/two pair, the cards were turned over, the slider had a set, and you got to see a heart hit on the river for the non-flush that would have won you a big pot, hence the reason for the post.

how did the rest of the tourney play out?

[kalooki45]

I read a big bet at an Ace as a protection bet from a EP pre-flop raiser..unless you think he'll make same bet regardless of holding.
I don't like the 54h
even if you make your flush, you're going for the bottom...so any other flush draws have you beat--your str8 is a gut-shot.
Id'a folded pre-flop myself--but I think you may have a better shot later.