Race to 20k

[Blake Lovely]

Wow, you guys really hate this bet lol. A couple of my brothers post under this name on here as well, so I cant really comment on what they have posted vs what I have posted, if that clears anything up.
I was really hoping the discussion would focus more on the amount of time it would to an establihsed winning player at higher limits to go from minimal bankroll to 20k playing online.
I was consdering move up time to be minimal once you know you can beat the limits, because bankroll size should grow nearly exponentially due to the limits doubling so quickly.
However, we did modify the bet last night while we were playing, we decided we sould just give the other whatever we had made to that point online; so it cant hurt us out of the pocket.
Also, he over took me last night going from 400 to 1200. So hes at 3-6 from 100 bucks starting in like 2 nights. Interesting note, his vpip right now is around 20% where mine is 15% over a sample size of 4000 hands each. It's pretty interesting noting style and skill changes from limit to limit so far, I think that will continue to be interesting. I'm at 930 and we got out of class today for thanksgiving so we plan on playing a good bit this week. I'll keep you updated.

[ChicagoTroy]

As long as we're telling fairy tales, I predict my pet ogre will beat both of you. He would like to change the bet from keeping the winnings to the winner raping the loser.

[MEbenhoe]

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Wow, you guys really hate this bet lol. A couple of my brothers post under this name on here as well, so I cant really comment on what they have posted vs what I have posted, if that clears anything up.
I was really hoping the discussion would focus more on the amount of time it would to an establihsed winning player at higher limits to go from minimal bankroll to 20k playing online.
I was consdering move up time to be minimal once you know you can beat the limits, because bankroll size should grow nearly exponentially due to the limits doubling so quickly.
However, we did modify the bet last night while we were playing, we decided we sould just give the other whatever we had made to that point online; so it cant hurt us out of the pocket.
Also, he over took me last night going from 400 to 1200. So hes at 3-6 from 100 bucks starting in like 2 nights. Interesting note, his vpip right now is around 20% where mine is 15% over a sample size of 4000 hands each. It's pretty interesting noting style and skill changes from limit to limit so far, I think that will continue to be interesting. I'm at 930 and we got out of class today for thanksgiving so we plan on playing a good bit this week. I'll keep you updated.

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Now sir, to prove that this whole thing is fake.

Your friend is up to $1200 from his original $100 in the short period of 4000 hands, so now its time for him to move up to 3/6. So even if he had played all 4000 hands at 2/4 he'd be averaging 6.875 BB/100, quite an impressive hot streak for 4000 hands but still believable. However, since he moved up to 2/4 only when he had $800 he's made 100 BBs at 2/4 and now assume he made the other $700 at 1/2. This now ups his BB/100 to an amazing 11.75 BB/100. Wow this guy is god-like at this point.

Lets not stop here though. He only moved up to 1/2 when he had $400 so he made 100 BBs at 2/4 and 200 BBs at 1/2. Now we can assume that he made the other $300 at $0.50/$1. So this means he made accross 3 levels 600 BBs in 4000 hands. The math is simple here 15 BBs/100.

Sorry man, but the best player in the world couldn't maintain 15 BBs/100 over a 4000 hand period. Its doable over a shorter period of time, but not over a 4000 hand period. Next time come up with a better fairy tale to pretend that you're some type of great poker player that you clearly are not.

[Losing all]

selling a tec chip, hehe. nice catch. Busted!

btw- if the tec salesman really is a frat brother, and this bet is legit, very stupid.

[Losing all]

I don't think you understand. These guys have been sneaking into casinos to play big limit since 17. How good is that?

[Blake Lovely]

Naw, we never played .50/1 smallest limit was 1/2, and your right in one sense, here are his tracker stats..(what you have to understand is that this is a small sample size, so it doesn't represent what his actual stats would be.
2/4 was the game he destroied so badly.
party 2/4 979 hands, 25.13 vpip, amount won 490.49, 12.53 bb/100, 125.50 paid in rake, this low limit rake is unheard of

[Schneids]

A very good successful mid-high limit player that restarted from scratch could be back to $20,000 in 3 months with 1000 hands per day if they ran hot during this time period, particularly in the lower limits.

[MEbenhoe]

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Naw, we never played .50/1 smallest limit was 1/2

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So you're telling me you started out 4 tabling 1/2 with 50 BBs...yeeeeeeeah
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2/4 was the game he destroied so badly.
party 2/4 979 hands, 25.13 vpip, amount won 490.49, 12.53 bb/100, 125.50 paid in rake, this low limit rake is unheard of

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Dude this still puts your BB/100 at over 12 for 4000 hands....stop with the fairy tales....maybe had your previous posts shown even a slight inkling that you were a very good player this could be believable, but they clearly don't

[harboral]

Wait a minute, aren't you the guy that is crying that Rakefree is a great and needed site? Aren't you the guy that was playing in a $25 and $50 NL game where everybody had stacks of $5000 and you raised (all the way!) to $200 and then just called down to the river when the "extremely aggressive" player bet into you? Geez, tell your daddy that it's time to take you to soccer practice and that your driving test is next week. (oh, yeah, you said your brothers also use this name - what, they don't have the computer know how to get their own name?) GMAFB

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Average stack about 5000. Villian is extremely aggro.

Hero is UTG with red aces.
Hero raises to 200. folded to villian on button who raises to 500. both blinds fold, hero calls.

Flop comes K 8 2 rainbow
check, villian bets 500, call.

turn is a J
check, villian bets 1000, call.

river is a Q
check, villian bets 1000, call.

Edited by Blake Lovely (11/04/04 03:37 AM)

[stinkypete]

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Sorry man, but the best player in the world couldn't maintain 15 BBs/100 over a 4000 hand period.

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you're just dead wrong there. it won't happen often but it's definitely not impossible.

i'm at 10.03 BB/100 at 2/4 over my last 3719 hands (since i started my anti-tilt challenge that i sort of posted about in small stakes). and i'm not that good.

when i cleared my empire $500 match bonus back in the day (when i sucked much worse than i do now) i was at about 20BB/100 over the 2500 hands i played at 1/2 6 max.

good runs aren't impossible.