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Old 11-23-2003, 03:17 PM
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Default haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

folds around to mp who calls, i raise next in with QQ. big blind and limper call, 3 to the flop for 2 bets.

flop is 34J two-tone. big blind checks, limper bets, i call, big blind calls.

turn is an offsuit K. big blind checks, limper bets, i raise, big blind 3bets, limper calls, i fold.

not that interesting i guess, i'll find some more though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-24-2003, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

u played terrible. and u surely know what your mistake was.

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Old 11-24-2003, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

i disagree that i played terribly, and i do not know what mistake to which you might be referring
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

QQ is more vulnerable than KK or AA - I'd raise the flop. No need to keep the big blind around...

I mean, it's not like the pot's so big he would only fold to two BIG bets. And, it's not like your hand is so much of a lock you want to slowplay. Assuming the limper calls the raise (and the big blinds folds) you get the same amount of money in the pot with one less opponent.
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

Maybe not raising the flop, or maybe raising the turn when the overcard came.
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Old 11-24-2003, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

presuming one person has a king and another has an ace, and there were no other ones dealt out (not terribly likely) there are still only 6 of them combined in the deck.

online players are generally loose and terrible callers, and this hand is no exception. i would be completely unsurprised to have flopped middle/bottom pair or a hand like ace ten/ace jack to call 2 cold on the turn with a gutshot.
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Old 11-24-2003, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

You should raise the flop. The BB will have to call two cold to continue.
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Old 11-24-2003, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

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Maybe not raising the flop, or maybe raising the turn when the overcard came.

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that's it.

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Old 11-24-2003, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

u should have raised the flop. if BB had a set or two-pair he would come and you would be beat anyway. but that doesn't mean u shouldn't have raised flop.

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Old 11-24-2003, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.

uh, i guess it doesn't appear to all of you that the AUTOMATIC way to play this hand is to raise the flop. i'm aware of that, i considered it, and i believe raising the turn is a superior play.

there are up to 6 overcards in the entire deck that can harm me, and these are the type of opponents that will call 2 cold on the turn with any piece of the flop.

raising when the king drops, with position, ensures that i can fold without reservation to a 3bet and maximizes my profit in terms of their cold calling. furthermore, even if i'm called in both places i can still check down the river unimproved. anything less than ace king (and even 2 pair a majority of the time) will check to me on the end.
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