haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

folds around to mp who calls, i raise next in with QQ. big blind and limper call, 3 to the flop for 2 bets.

flop is 34J two-tone. big blind checks, limper bets, i call, big blind calls.

turn is an offsuit K. big blind checks, limper bets, i raise, big blind 3bets, limper calls, i fold.

not that interesting i guess, i'll find some more though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

u played terrible. and u surely know what your mistake was.

kenny

Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

i disagree that i played terribly, and i do not know what mistake to which you might be referring

Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

QQ is more vulnerable than KK or AA - I'd raise the flop. No need to keep the big blind around...

I mean, it's not like the pot's so big he would only fold to two BIG bets. And, it's not like your hand is so much of a lock you want to slowplay. Assuming the limper calls the raise (and the big blinds folds) you get the same amount of money in the pot with one less opponent.

Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

Maybe not raising the flop, or maybe raising the turn when the overcard came.

Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

presuming one person has a king and another has an ace, and there were no other ones dealt out (not terribly likely) there are still only 6 of them combined in the deck.

online players are generally loose and terrible callers, and this hand is no exception. i would be completely unsurprised to have flopped middle/bottom pair or a hand like ace ten/ace jack to call 2 cold on the turn with a gutshot.

Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

You should raise the flop. The BB will have to call two cold to continue.

Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

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Maybe not raising the flop, or maybe raising the turn when the overcard came.

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that's it.

kenny

Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

u should have raised the flop. if BB had a set or two-pair he would come and you would be beat anyway. but that doesn't mean u shouldn't have raised flop.

kenny

Re: haven\'t posted in a while. online hand.
 

uh, i guess it doesn't appear to all of you that the AUTOMATIC way to play this hand is to raise the flop. i'm aware of that, i considered it, and i believe raising the turn is a superior play.

there are up to 6 overcards in the entire deck that can harm me, and these are the type of opponents that will call 2 cold on the turn with any piece of the flop.

raising when the king drops, with position, ensures that i can fold without reservation to a 3bet and maximizes my profit in terms of their cold calling. furthermore, even if i'm called in both places i can still check down the river unimproved. anything less than ace king (and even 2 pair a majority of the time) will check to me on the end.