Did check raising cost me?

Nightbrace · #1 10-17-2005, 05:55 PM

BB is very loose, very aggressive, stats are 56/26/5 after 86 hands. Is check-raising the turn ok here?
Comments on all streets appreciated.

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Preflop: Nightbrace is SB with As, Td.
3 folds, Nightbrace raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 6d, 9h, 5s (2 players)
Nightbrace bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) Ah (2 players)
Nightbrace checks, BB bets, Nightbrace raises, BB 3-bets, Nightbrace calls.

River: (9 BB) 3d (2 players)
Nightbrace bets, BB raises, Nightbrace calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

#2 10-17-2005, 06:07 PM

I would just bet the turn and call a raise. Then check call the river. But I didnt sit at the table.

milesdyson · #3 10-17-2005, 06:13 PM

your question makes no sense, and your turn/river play is inconsistent.

bottomset · #4 10-17-2005, 06:14 PM

I don't get the river at all

Nightbrace · #5 10-17-2005, 06:18 PM

He bets and raises with anything, in this case, 24/

#6 10-17-2005, 06:19 PM

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He bets and raises with anything, in this case, 24/

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If he is that big of a maniac then of course this is ok. Sounds like you're being results oriented.

aces_dad · #7 10-17-2005, 06:21 PM

But if you're willing to bet the river (because you think you're good) you should cap the turn.

Else, just check/call the river, if you're now just trying to get to a cheap showdown after getting 3bet on the turn.

Nightbrace · #8 10-17-2005, 06:42 PM

I was afraid to cap the turn given the number of hands he plays and calls raises with preflop, I was hoping to check- raise to get him to fold either on the turn or river. When he re-raised me back I was afraid of 2-pair especially an Ace-rag that paired on the flop. he would just raise if I bet. Trying to learn how to protect against these guys, maybe there is no way to protect, but I guess in the long run thats good for us.
The river is a standard value bet right?

#9 10-17-2005, 06:43 PM

Vs a maniac anything might be a value bet. Its just about how much variance you can tolerate. Vs a sane opponent you dont 3-bet turn and you dont bet river.

bottomset · #10 10-17-2005, 06:47 PM

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I was afraid to cap the turn given the number of hands he plays and calls raises with preflop, I was hoping to check- raise to get him to fold either on the turn or river. When he re-raised me back I was afraid of 2-pair especially an Ace-rag that paired on the flop. he would just raise if I bet. Trying to learn how to protect against these guys, maybe there is no way to protect, but I guess in the long run thats good for us.
The river is a standard value bet right?

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um do you pay attention to action on previous streets are just play each one in a vacuum

you say his 3bet on the turn, means 2pr a lot of the time, which beats you, you don't improve but lead the river anyway??