KK - Early against a loose table

Cleveland Guy · #1 03-22-2005, 02:24 PM

This is about the 6th hand - first hand I have played, but I have seen some big raises here for Level 1.

The table is playing very loose pre-flop, but seems to have calmed down post flop with only 1 of the first 5 hands going to showdown.

Hero is SB with KK.

5 Limps to hero. Pot = 130. Hero goes for the over bet of 200.

Smooth called by 3 of the limpers.

Flop comes JJ6 - Rainbow.

What's my play here?

Unarmed · #2 03-22-2005, 02:33 PM

It all depends on whether or not your opponents are more likely to call your bet with an underpair or bet it themselves if checked to.

Stack sizes are awkward but I like a bet of 300 or C/R all-in. The C/R I like if they'll bet their underpair because:

1) It pot commits them where an underpair wouldn't likely call an open push
2) A check by you is consistent with the way many would play a whiffed AK here

curtains · #3 03-22-2005, 02:37 PM

I would avoid getting fancy on this flop and just bet. You might be beaten, but you should get plenty of weak calls at a loose table.

Scuba Chuck · #4 03-22-2005, 02:38 PM

Well, this is very easy for me. I PUSH.

Out of curiosity, how often do you bet out if an Ace hits the flop? Do you always check fold if an ace hits when you're holding KK?

Scuba Chuck · #5 03-22-2005, 02:41 PM

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I would avoid getting fancy on this flop and just bet. You might be beaten, but you should get plenty of weak calls at a loose table.

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I don't think his preflop play is fancy? Could you explain. He raised the bets from 30 to 200. This seems like a pretty serious bet to me - nothing fancy.

Furthermore, who calls these bets? IMO, it's pocket pairs, and Ax. Unless someone is sitting on a lucky 66, you have the best hand here.

curtains · #6 03-22-2005, 02:44 PM

I said flop play! I was referring to Unarmed who said bet to 300 or check raise. I'd generally just bet here.

Unarmed · #7 03-22-2005, 02:45 PM

I am Mr. Fancypants, not OP. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Scuba Chuck · #8 03-22-2005, 02:45 PM

Well, then, very good advice. Do you see why?

Unarmed · #9 03-22-2005, 02:49 PM

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Well, then, very good advice. Do you see why?

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I don't, tell me tell me!!!

BTW checking is also fun when the action goes check, bet, all-in, all-in [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Cleveland Guy · #10 03-22-2005, 02:54 PM

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Furthermore, who calls these bets? IMO, it's pocket pairs, and Ax. Unless someone is sitting on a lucky 66, you have the best hand here.

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The way this table was calling raises pre-flop I couldn't rule out any 2 broadway containing a J - in that case I'm way behind.