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Old 12-25-2004, 02:16 PM
Sam T. Sam T. is offline
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Default 1st Hand QQ

Hero on the button with QQ, $20 SnG.

Two limpers, MP raises to t60, CO re-raises to 200.

Hero?

Calls. I can't fold, but I also know that I'm going to get called by overcards. I'd rather have a look at the flop. If it's yucky, I can get away with a playable stack.

Original raiser folds, so we're heads up. Flop comes J34r, and CO pushes.

Hero?

I called.

Thoughts?
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: 1st Hand QQ

With a raise and reraise preflop I think you have to push. One of the two calls. If they have AA or KK, so be it, but this is a $20, where play is still a bit looney.

I'd push pre, and I'd push after the flop too.

Nick
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: 1st Hand QQ

I'd fold it.

1. It's early, so none of them are in desperate mode. They don't have to push.

2. He re-raised preflop, which suggests high pair that doesn't want to see the flop. (This is presuming the first raise wasn't a min raise or from a loose player).

3. He pushed on the flop, despite no draws. He either has QQ or KK.
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: 1st Hand QQ

looks like he is just trying to end it here to take the 200 call preflop, AJ is the first thing that pops in to my head.
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: 1st Hand QQ

[ QUOTE ]
looks like he is just trying to end it here to take the 200 call preflop, AJ is the first thing that pops in to my head.

[/ QUOTE ]He re-raises to 200 with AJ? I doubt it. High pair is the only thing that makes sense.
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: 1st Hand QQ

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[ QUOTE ]
looks like he is just trying to end it here to take the 200 call preflop, AJ is the first thing that pops in to my head.

[/ QUOTE ]He re-raises to 200 with AJ? I doubt it. High pair is the only thing that makes sense.

[/ QUOTE ]


This is the first hand of a 20$ SNG, you are giving the opponents way too much credit.
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: 1st Hand QQ

High pair makes sense too, it's a pretty close call/fold situation, too bad it had to happen on the first hand so you dont have any clue how loose/tight this player is. There are more hands to fear, KK, AA, JJ than hands you have beat, mainly AJ, hell even AK, even so, I am probally pushing because it just looks like a steal to me, if you think you are talented enough to survive shorter stacked after the first hand you can fold.
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Old 12-25-2004, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: 1st Hand QQ

I'm thinking he has KK, QQ , JJ
and on the first hand at this level (where I play) there is a significant amount of lunacy......
I probably fold this one. Unless I'm in a hurry....even if he has AK he can still beat you too many ways.

Interesting as I think this over, I would not fold KK here, yet would easily fold 10,10........I bet he had JJ..

results please,
hyde
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Old 12-25-2004, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: 1st Hand QQ

*drum roll*


KK!


OK i don't know for sure but i've got my money on KK.
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Old 12-25-2004, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: 1st Hand QQ

[ QUOTE ]
I'm thinking he has KK, QQ , JJ
and on the first hand at this level (where I play) there is a significant amount of lunacy......
I probably fold this one. Unless I'm in a hurry....even if he has AK he can still beat you too many ways.

Interesting as I think this over, I would not fold KK here, yet would easily fold 10,10........I bet he had JJ..

results please,
hyde

[/ QUOTE ]

I was thinking JJ too, but that's a pretty bold move to make figuring hero would only call with QQ or better and hasn't made any moves to show he has a hand like that.
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