KQs, river decision

[joker122]

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...but wouldn't you be worried about losing the guy stuck in the middle of the raising war?

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No, if you if you lost the middle man it would be great because you would increase your chances of winning the pot.

[sthief09]

you're right, we did misunderstand the question. the reason is because you want your K and Q outs to win the pot when you hit them.


- in a small pot, when you have a flush draw and overcards, you want as many people in as possible so you're getting an overlay on your flush draw, and you want to build a big pot and win it.

- in a big pot, you want as few people in as possible, because the pot is already big. you want your K or Q outs to be good as often as possible, and don't care as much about building a big pot.

[bisonbison]

Besides, even if I did want him in, what's he more likely to call, a 2 SB raise on the flop when he's already put in a SB, or a 2 BB raise on the turn totally cold?

If he folds on the flop, fine.
If he calls on the flop, fine.

But if I want him to fold on the turn, there's no way I can do it.
And if I want him to call on the turn, I can only make him call 1.

[Sleepy Weasel]

That does make sense. I had thought about the K and Q outs, but I figured AQ and AK were all you would be worried about there, and I couldn't put him on those hands. I forgot about the possibility of a pair plus K or Q overcard kicker, which is very possible. Ok, I'm sold [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Sleepy Weasel]

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Besides, even if I did want him in, what's he more likely to call, a 2 SB raise on the flop when he's already put in a SB, or a 2 BB raise on the turn totally cold?

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Good point, that was tickling the back of my mind, but it wasn't loud enough. I'll listen harder now.

[Nate tha' Great]

"Decision" implies that you have something to decide, which you don't. Played fine.

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HPFAP21st : App A p310

"Thus your king-high flush will be beaten by an ace-high flush less than 6 percent of the time (when there is a three-flush on board)"

[SuitedDucks]

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Could someone explain the flop 3-bet to me?

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Hero had 9 outs to the flush and 6 overcard outs for a total of 15 outs. He is a favorite to make a hand by the river, so 3 betting is for pure value.

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Can someone expalin why Hero is a favorite with is 15 outs. I know he has them, but how can he be considered a favorite. I do understand the point of betting to build the pot up for the flush, but how can he be considred the favorite?

[Kenshin]

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Could someone explain the flop 3-bet to me?

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Hero had 9 outs to the flush and 6 overcard outs for a total of 15 outs. He is a favorite to make a hand by the river, so 3 betting is for pure value.

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Can someone expalin why Hero is a favorite with is 15 outs. I know he has them, but how can he be considered a favorite. I do understand the point of betting to build the pot up for the flush, but how can he be considred the favorite?

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15/48 + 15/47= .63 He will make his hand 63 percent of the time. Thus he is a favorite to have the best hand by the river

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15/48 + 15/47= .63 He will make his hand 63 percent of the time. Thus he is a favorite to have the best hand by the river

Umm not quite

The easiest way to calculate your odds would be to assume you missed both streets.

1 - (32/47 * 31/46) = 1 - .459 (rounded) = 54.1%

Odds would be

(100 - 54.1)/54.1 = .85 .85 to 1

So how good a bet is this? Well it's better than the house gets at Blackjack, Craps, or Baccarat.