internet vs B&M

[kiddj]

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There are more hot chicks at the B&M than in my house.

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Surf for porn. You have just as much chance to score with those chicks as you do the B&M ones.

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My monitor isn't big enough, i guess. I like full-size, real life, bouncy tt's. And the games are super soft as well! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[hellite]

I have advantages in a live game that can not be utilized online. Online I can use poker tracker and see stats, but that is not everything. Sitting at a live table for hours, I can really get a good read at not only how many hands people are playing and what their raising standards etc. are, but also how and when they bet, what they look like when they look at their cards etc. If you only play online its quite different. When I sit at home in my underwear I get dealt pocket Aces, i can stand up and scream or whatever. You need to be a little more deceiving in a live game. How many online 5/10 games do you see where someone raises under the gun...7 players seeing a capped flop? Live games are fun and highly profitable.
on the other side, it is nice to play an hour here and there from your own home in your own chair with a much smaller rake. I have been playing mostly onlie for the past two months, but I was crushing the $6/12 hold'em at the cardroom right down the street from me.

Online boviously has better table selection than a live game - HOWEVER, in a live game you can change seats (for positional advantage) when a player leaves the table before a new player sits; you can't do this online (unless you are playing short handed.

[michaliv]

I generally concentrate better in a B&M. I also get bored with internet poker at times. It is just a lot more fun to play in a B&M. I also think that the B&M games are alot softer.

[trillig]

Internet:

-: Bot potential, unseen smack talking trolls who if it was LIVE would rarely talk smack to me. (I usually have chat OFF now on the rare occasion that I play on-line), dull factor

+: access (to food, no long drives), clothes optional, micro-limits, easy seat/table changes, any time tournaments, actual Omaha games (and other non-Hold'em) to play 24/7, multi-tasking and multi-tabling.

Live:

-: smelly drunks breathing on ya, fewer hands, non-private bathrooms, higher rake (usually)

+: eye candy, visible drunk donators, free drinks, easy player stereotyping, more tells and TILT reads, chips to play with, did I mention cocktail waitresses and occasional hotties looking for their degenerate SO's? 8) Rarely dull!

I manage winning at both, but much rather play LIVE as it was MEANT to be played.

-Bri

[BoxTree]

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does anyone prefer B&M to the internet at similar stakes? If so, why? I find it soooooo boring and getting over downswings takes forever. There is also no tracking software obviously and you dont have an eagle eye view of the table, which I find very helpful schematically. Tell me what the appeal is.

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"Similar stakes" is problematic. 3/6 at Party = 9/18 at Commerce (and often 20/40).

But if you're comparing 3/6 online to 3/6 live, this is a no-brainer: online is much better. The 3/6 live rake is terrible. TERRIBLE.

That said, I greatly prefer playing live.

At least at Commerce 20/40, all of the food is entirely free.

[Toonces]

3/6 at Party = 28% VPIP
20/40 at B&M = 50% VPIP

[silkyslim]

meh. i figured it out. i am playing at too low a limit, at a place I don't know that well, and got to play 6 hands in 8 hours (using the ssh loose table chart). all straightforward with only 1 winning hand. i think i got cold decked. I did see the hot drunk chicks, the drunk donators, and had very good reads on all the drunkies.

[DeepCroak]

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once a week comp at the Mirage

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Once a week? I got it 3 or 4 nights in a row last time I was there. Was I just lucky?

And while it may not pay for a full buffet, it pretty much covers the CPK. It works for me...

[BoxTree]

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3/6 at Party = 28% VPIP
20/40 at B&M = 50% VPIP

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50% VPIP at Commerce 20/40??? An average of 4.5 players to each flop? No way. I'd say a table VPIP of about 35% is about right. Granted, that's still a lot higher than 28%, but it's not 50%.

[hellite]

"Similar stakes" is problematic. 3/6 at Party = 9/18 at Commerce (and often 20/40).

But if you're comparing 3/6 online to 3/6 live, this is a no-brainer: online is much better. The 3/6 live rake is terrible. TERRIBLE.

I strongly disagree with this statement. A live 3/6 game - while it does have a considerably higher rake - is far more profitable then sigle tabling most 3/6 games online. Most 3/6 games online are significantly tougher than live games. Many casinos lowest limit table is 3/6 (at least in california) which means beginners and straight suckers play these games. When you get an excellent hand that gets paid off at one of these tables you will not be fretting over the rake. I've sat at a full 10 handed 3/6 table where by the river you could barely see the table! It was covered with chips! We are talking about a $300 pot. Variance is greater, but who cares.
I stopped playing 3/6 and moved to 6/12 and realized that it was much the same. Sure, some tougher players, but plenty of morons that really have little to no idea what they are doing.

Usually online, you get a table with 2-3 morons, not a full table of them!