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andyfox
11-10-2004, 02:37 AM
There she was, Diamond Girl. How did I know? It said so, on her blouse, in sequins: DIAMOND GIRL. "Diamond" was on the top line, at a strategic level, so that the first "D" and the second one lined up with the, um, bulleyes. Mighty impressive. Mighty, mighty impressive. Top pair indeed.

She plays very well. Never limps pre-flop. Rarely raises on the flop. Either bets or calls. Rarely calls on the turn. Either raises or folds. Shows down very, very few hands. Only one I saw for a long time was when she called a frightening looking board being bet by her opponent all the way and he turned over K-4 for a pair of fours, king kicker, and she took the pot with A-4.

She seemed the ultimate floater, youngish and Asian. It was 70 degrees in L.A., but she had on a black motorcycle hat, giant black Gucci sunglasses, more make-up than Alice Cooper, and a long, black fur coat with black leather pants. Collagen lips, the whole package. She was downing Red Bulls and OJ (not together, first one, then the other). She got off to a slow start, so she took out twelve, yes twelve, thousand dollar chips from her purse and put them into play. After a while, she had won a lot of chips and I won a pot that contained a hundred dollar bill. She asked if she could get the bill from me and gave me ten brown $10 chips. I said sure and gave her the bill in exchange. She decided to take the bill off the table, and since she had about $15,000 in front of her in a $40-80 game, nobody objected. Bookkeeping, I guess. She was sitting next to me and took out five wads of hundred dollar bills with the $5,000 wrapper around them. She inspected those, and determined they were complete, so she added the bill to a loose wad, which loooked to have at least 100 others in it.

I'm not generally nosy, but I leaned over a bit and saw a cache of $1,000 and $5,000 dollar chips in the giant purse. My best guess is that she had $100,000 in cash and chips on her.

Soon she got up from the game and took a largish notebook from her purse. She went over to various tables, talked to a few players, made some notes. Took her about half an hour. Bookmaker? Call girl proprieter? Caterer? Who knows. . .

She's on my left. It's my small blind when all pass to the too-aggressive button who raises. I 3-bet with K-Ts. She asks who raised. The action is recounted for her. She caps. We both call. Flop is J-T-x. I check, she bets, button calls, I call. Turn is a blank. Check, bet, fold, I call. River is another blank. I check, she bets, I call. And there was a pause. So out of character--everything to that point was in rhythm, not just her play, her bearing, her whole essence. Finally, she says, A-Q. AMHWG.

Didn't faze her though. I had a good day, but when I left she was running circles around the table. When ziggin' was right, she was ziggin' and when zaggin' was right, well, you know. Everybody else was a half a step behind. Or more.

I never quite understood the "floater" phenomenon until I saw it close up today. She definitely has "it."

Might impressive. Mighty, mighty impressive.

mike l.
11-10-2004, 02:49 AM
is she pretty short with dyed blondish hair? if she's who im thinking i wonder why she was playing 40, i played 200-400 several times with her lately and she's one tough cookie indeed, plus quite a looker. stay out of pots with KTs against her andy, trust me on this one.

andyfox
11-10-2004, 02:56 AM
No, black hair, not that pretty (despite my intimations otherwise in my original post) and, the more I studied her (don't tell my wife), the less youthful I think she really was.

I had the K-T before I knew she had A-Q. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

mike l.
11-10-2004, 02:58 AM
ok cool it's not who im thinking then. interesting place, that commerce club.

Sponger15SB
11-10-2004, 04:38 AM
ok even though i think you just explained it.... what exactly is a floater.

slavic
11-10-2004, 04:46 AM
As best I can tell:

Floater n. - Asian female most likely with pink hair who uses position and chips to run preflop raisers out of pots.

We seem to have a lack of floaters in Seattle, thus all is well here.

snakehead
11-10-2004, 02:29 PM
mike is referring to cc. I guess beauty (and skill) is in the eye of the beholder. diamond girl is nhu, a 40 player who I have seen playing 80 once or twice. I don't know anything about her, but she always seems nice when I play with her. she dresses much better than cc.

andyfox
11-10-2004, 02:52 PM
Yes, someone caller her Nhu. At least I think so. Either that or he said "High Noon." Hi, Nhu seems more likely.

And yes, she was very nice indeed.

Diplomat
11-10-2004, 04:49 PM
Oh for the love of god. It's like in every 3rd post.

The monster we have created.

-Diplomat

offTopic
11-10-2004, 08:39 PM
[ QUOTE ]
There she was, Diamond Girl. How did I know? It said so, on her blouse, in sequins: DIAMOND GIRL. "Diamond" was on the top line, at a strategic level, so that the first "D" and the second one lined up with the, um, bulleyes. Mighty impressive. Mighty, mighty impressive. Top pair indeed.

[/ QUOTE ]

Was it Joanne Carner?

Duke
11-10-2004, 09:57 PM
Oh, so cc is hot. A long time ago a buddy of mine said: I should try to hook you up with cc. I didn't know who the hell she was. Now I know - she's a hot floater. No more description is necessary.

This mysterious cc I will someday have to play against.

~D

andyfox
11-11-2004, 12:32 AM
/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Michael Davis
11-11-2004, 02:19 AM
How hard can it be to steal a purse? I'm sure if I took a few nights off I could figure something out. +EV.

-Michael

J_V
11-11-2004, 02:24 AM
No Ipod?

Nice post.

Someday someone needs to hook up with a floater, and give a floater trip report. It won't be me, I don't seem to do well with the floaters.

JimRivett
11-11-2004, 02:30 AM
Andy,

Perhaps this woman wasn't a floater, she may have been a juice man er woman.

Jim

andyfox
11-11-2004, 01:16 PM
Floating juice woman?

Paluka
11-11-2004, 01:42 PM
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No Ipod?



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Beat me to it.

Boris
11-11-2004, 01:51 PM
What the heck is floater. I'm dying to know.

Sponger15SB
11-11-2004, 01:53 PM
[ QUOTE ]
What the heck is floater. I'm dying to know.

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shhh let the secret society of mid-high stakes players throw around inside jokes.....

J_V
11-11-2004, 02:26 PM
It is not a joke, it is very very real and extremely serious.

Btw, floater has been defined 100 times. I think someone defined it in this thread.

To be a floater, you must play 60-120 or higher, play lots of hands, many for cold-calls, play fast postflop and win lots of pots without showdowns, "floating through the game."

The chick check-raising the ace-high flop, restealing your buttons steal is likely "floating". But don't dare call her down, cause she'll show you A9o.

Many floaters are rich, red-haired asian women, who have an affinity for the IPOD.

limon
11-11-2004, 02:26 PM
they never float to the big bet games but there are all these asian chicks who play tight aggressive limit poker 40 or bigger, who seem to be in every casino in l.a. at the same time. some of them are really cute and are surely being staked by some tool but they are winning players i would guess because they have alot of discipline. in my experience they are a pretty standoffish cold group, thus the discipline. (see also evylyn ng)

Paluka
11-11-2004, 02:35 PM
The worst thing a floater can do to you is raise you on the turn, allowing someone else to 3 bet. Then after you think and think and think and make a tough fold, she mucks quickly for the extra bet.

Fitz
11-11-2004, 04:56 PM
"Twenty, thirty grand small bills in that little silk purse. If this was somebody else's wedding..."

Turning Stone Pro
11-11-2004, 04:58 PM
"Hey Paulie, bring some wine. Now cut out the crap and do your job . . ."

Bill Murphy
11-11-2004, 08:58 PM
She sure do shine. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Lawrence Ng
11-12-2004, 06:12 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I never quite understood the "floater" phenomenon until I saw it close up today. She definitely has "it."

Might impressive. Mighty, mighty impressive.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you let them float, they will float. The point is to drown them. Don't let them control the game. Mike knows what I am talking about.

Lawrence

Steve Giufre
11-12-2004, 01:52 PM
If Snakhead is correct and the player you are talking about is Nhu, she is really tough. Great description BTW. She has been a silent prop in the 40-80 at Hawiian Gardens for a while. I used to play quite a bit with her, and she is a real pain in the ass when she is holding two cards. I have seen her get off of her A game more then a few times if you get her nose opened up a little though.

Phat Mack
11-12-2004, 01:55 PM
they never float to the big bet games

I've seen them drift into pot limit games. If they book a win in their first couple of plays, you can see the look in their eyes that says: I understand how this works. They are usually broke a few days later. It seems as though their discipline, once cracked, leaves completely. Sometimes they just disappear, sometimes they reappear in limit games several months later.