QQ early... Push or Fold?

razor · #1 07-02-2004, 08:45 PM

What do poker minds better then mine do in this situation?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t1470)
BB (t1720)
Hero (t1740)
UTG+1 (t1265)
MP1 (t1855)
MP2 (t510)
MP3 (t2055)
CO (t1555)
Button (t1330)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t100, UTG+1 calls t100, 3 folds, CO raises to t660, 3 folds, Hero ????

caretaker1 · #2 07-02-2004, 08:55 PM

It's a tough spot, but I would fold (unless you know your opponent to be wildly aggressive). You've still got plenty of time and chips to play with; big re-raises like that reek of AA or KK when the table is still full/close to full. Lower pairs would likely call or fold. My $.02

AtlBrvs4Life · #3 07-02-2004, 09:05 PM

Is calling out of the question?

razor · #4 07-02-2004, 09:40 PM

Yes. If I call what kind of flop am I hoping for? If the flop has no overcards I still fear AA or KK. And A or K on the flop means I fold so by calling I'm essentially playing the hand for a set. I'd be getting 3-1 on something with about 8-1 odds.

razor · #5 07-02-2004, 09:44 PM

Well since I've only committed T100 at this point it now seems like the obvious move is to fold and wait for a better spot.

Patience razor patience.

AtlBrvs4Life · #6 07-02-2004, 09:49 PM

What limits are you playing at that you think a reraise is automatically AA or KK? Why not AK or AQ or even JJ? I have no idea if this is a good play, but how bad would it be to call, see a flop, and if it has no ace or king, push?

razor · #7 07-02-2004, 09:56 PM

This is a tourney no-limit hand. I raise to T100, CO re-raises to T660. He isn't re-raising that much with my raise and a call with a piece of cheese. It costs me T560 to call in hopes of flopping a set to get the T905 already in the pot and the remaining T895 of his stack. I can't call in this situation.

Ron · #8 07-02-2004, 10:24 PM

[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] To early to go all in, even if he has only AK [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Fold [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

razor · #9 07-02-2004, 10:33 PM

It seems so obvious now. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

stripsqueez · #10 07-02-2004, 10:55 PM

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so by calling I'm essentially playing the hand for a set. I'd be getting 3-1 on something with about 8-1 odds.

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that doesnt sound right - if i call i'm pushing if no A or K flops

i think fold is a decent choice - given you will get called by AK if you push pre-flop i can live with call and adopt the aformentioned plan

stripsqueez - chickenhawk