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Old 06-28-2004, 10:51 PM
kem kem is offline
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Default Way too passive with my straight?

So I hit my straight on the river, but the straight card brings a possible flush, and the pot is raised in front of me. You 3-bet this, or just call?

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 14.75 BB, between Hero, BB and MP1.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (14.75 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows 8h Kd (two pair, kings and eights).
MP1 shows 9h Qs (one pair, queens).
Hero shows Jc Ad (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 14.75 BB. </font>
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Old 06-28-2004, 11:19 PM
B Dids B Dids is offline
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Default Re: Way too passive with my straight?

I'm not sure that I'm going to stick around to the river on a gutshot, but if I got there, I'd at least bet it.
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Old 06-28-2004, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: Way too passive with my straight?

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I'm not sure that I'm going to stick around to the river on a gutshot, but if I got there, I'd at least bet it.

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I was counting my 3 ace outs as being good.. that gave me odds to call the flop and turn.
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Old 06-28-2004, 11:37 PM
RED_RAIN RED_RAIN is offline
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Default Re: Way too passive with my straight?

I would have either called the flop and fold on the turn or raised on the flop to get my hopeful free card.

On the river, this might be a situation where it's correct to just cold call, cause if you get capped, you will be more than likely be shown a flush.
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Old 06-28-2004, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: Way too passive with my straight?

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I would have either called the flop and fold on the turn or raised on the flop to get my hopeful free card.

On the river, this might be a situation where it's correct to just cold call, cause if you get capped, you will be more than likely be shown a flush.

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That exactly what I was worried of -- betting being capped, and then shown the flush. MP wakes up on the river and raises out of nowhere when the club hits, so I was thinking he had the draw.

Didn't I have proper odds to call the flop/turn? If I assume my 3 A outs are good, that gives me 7 outs. As it was, I was up against two pair on the turn, so the 3 A outs I was counting weren't really good..
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: Way too passive with my straight?

If you want to get really technical. One of your aces might be dirty.
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Old 06-29-2004, 04:49 AM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: Way too passive with my straight?

I think MP1 was drunk and thought the river had given him a straight.
Calling is the right play as I think you'll see about half flushes, 40% two pair, and 10% other in this situation.
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