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Old 06-28-2004, 08:46 AM
Mr Trips Mr Trips is offline
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Default Techniques for avoiding tilt

I enjoy playing poker and believe I am good at it. Allthough I dont have poker tracker I am up on the 6 months I have been playing and reguarly have large winning sessions.

However I have a serious problem with tilt. For instance last week I was up $900 and lost it in a single session because I was tired and on tilt. Allthough I have recouped my losses this weekend I really need to think about how to avoid these situations.

I know the obvious answers such as not playing when tired ect but I was wondering if other people had found unobvious usefull techniques to combat these situation.

I know I am probably going to get flamed for this post but I would be very suprised if there wasnt a few if not a majority of players out there who have problems with tilt at some point in there playing.

Thanks in advance for replys.
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Old 06-28-2004, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: Techniques for avoiding tilt

Get yourself a really big loss from tilting (you did!) and think about it every time you start thinking you can play just a few more hands. It worked for me! Just leave man, it's as easy as that. And by all that is sacred and holy buy yourself Poker Tracker. If you have it, you'll have more incentive to leave because you'll be so excited to see all the cool [censored] it can do with your latest hands. Damn I love that thing.
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Old 06-28-2004, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Techniques for avoiding tilt

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I know the obvious answers such as not playing when tired ect but I was wondering if other people had found unobvious usefull techniques to combat these situation.

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The only way to avoid playing when you are tired is to stop playing. Sorry, it's both that simple and that difficult.

Fatigue is like alcohol in one respect. Almost everyone severely underestimates how much being tired affects them. By the time you consciously think about how tired you are you are already seriously impaired.
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:48 PM
Al Schoonmaker Al Schoonmaker is offline
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Default Re: Techniques for avoiding tilt

I wrote a four part series on "Tilt" that you can read on cardplayer.com.
Stellar Wind's point about fatigue being approximately as destructive as alcohol is supported by studies of drivers. An exhausted driver is about as dangerous as a drunk.
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Old 06-28-2004, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Techniques for avoiding tilt

I'm finding that I'm having an easier time dealing with stuff like loosing streaks and tilt as I get more experience. I understand how the game works and I understand myself (and my game)better after playing for a couple of years. As your 6 months becomes a year...two years...hopefully this will be part of the process for you too.

I can sence when I'm starting to tilt or run bad and I have a bunch of things that I do to get out of it. (move dowm in limit, re-read my books, post hands here, play a cheap tourney for a change of pace...)

Get poker tracker, it's a very different (and motivating thing) to see you're results in front of you. I know that it pains me to enter my losses into PT when I know that I wasn't at my best, likewise it motivates me to play at the times when I am capable of playing my best.

Bad streaks and bad beats are part of the game, they should not be an attack on your self esteem (if it feels like they are you need to think about that)....good players know that over time they will come out ahead and just keep plugging away.

Read The Psychology of Poker and Inside The Poker Mind.
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Old 06-28-2004, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Techniques for avoiding tilt

For me, tilt is borne of various frustrations or a combination of them. Beats, not gettting cards, watching LAGs steal while I'm not getting cards etc. One thing I've done in the past and is very helpful, especially when not getting cards, is to take a deck of cards and start peeling pockets off the top. Shuffle, repeat ... I found this grounds me in the reality of randomness and most of the time I begin to get a new appreciation for the cards that I actually am dealt in the game.
I think the really more potent question here is: Are there techniques for snapping out of tilt?. I'd like to see posts on THAT QUESTION. For me, I've found that reading John Feeney's essay on Professional Attitude is a good way to get yer head screwed back on straight.
/M
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Techniques for avoiding tilt

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Are there techniques for snapping out of tilt?.

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Stop playing poker until you feel better. This is not just a bankroll damage avoidance technique, it also helps cure the underlying problem.

You just admitted you are on tilt in a way you cannot easily deny to yourself. You also did something constructive about it. Those are huge steps toward both regaining control of your emotions and avoiding future incidents of tilt. Moreover, the really bad tilts usually come when you are already upset and something new happens. If you walk away when you're only a little upset, you avoid full-blown tilt.

However the real cure is preventive medicine. Tilt is much easier to prevent then fix.

1. Don't play with money you cannot afford to lose. Don't play in a bad game. Don't play against people that you know upset you. Don't play when you don't feel like playing. Don't show up late for a tournament. Don't play shortstacked. Do not do anything to set yourself up to fail. Always plan ahead and be prepared to play your best.

2. Don't drink or use other mind-altering substances. Aside from directly affecting play, they also weaken emotional control.

3. Think of yourself as a professional and act like one. Take pride in playing correctly. When you define success as playing well you can always be successful. If you insist it's just about going plus on the session you are going to have a lot to tilt over.

4. Learn to laugh out loud at the way your opponents play. Works for me. Of course I'm only an online player, but I'm sure it will be just as well when I try B&M [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].
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Old 06-28-2004, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: Techniques for avoiding tilt

I also have this problem of tilting. But not only does it happen when I'm frustrated, but it happens after I win huge pots.

If your tilting I suggest keeping a list of playable hands and do not alter from that list until you think you can start using your head again. If you find yourself playing worst hands because your not getting cards, or because of trash talk from another player, you should just get up and leave and try coming back at a later time.

For me, learning how to deal with tilt is huge because I try to play all day long. And I hate to have to quit a game because I cannot handle the psychological affects.

Good luck though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:48 PM
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I used to have that 'on a roll tilt' pretty bad and still do. It seems the more I'm aware of such tendencies the more they dissapate. Everyday I'm reminded that depth of experience can't be taught, bought or studied in.
/M
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Old 06-29-2004, 08:00 AM
Mr Trips Mr Trips is offline
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Default Re: Techniques for avoiding tilt

Thanks for all your replys.
I was expecting to get lots of posts asking me why I think I am a good player if I lost XXX amount ect, but instead got some really usefull advice and support.
I will definately be posting again in the near future.

Cheers,
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