Please help. My friend is confused.

[AaronO]

Please help with this situation. I have a friend who just started playing in our regular games. We'll call him JM. All seems well until one day when JM says something completely crazy.

In the first hand of our game (we do single table, no limit tournament) the board shows 4 clubs. He and another guy get into a betting war. JM turns over Kc. The other guys turns over Ac. Other guy goes for the pot, and JM says "no it's a split."

The entire table jumps JM's case, but he won't let it go. He says "I watch and play poker all the time. You guys are playing some kind of home rule. In my game that's a split pot." Despite everyone's protest he insists it's a split. Then after the game, he offers to host the next game.

1) What do you all do with these kind of players?
2) Should I go to his home game, where I'm sure to be screwed on a similar hand?
3) Should we invite him back to play with the rest of the group?

[samjjones]

Its always advised to have a copy of Robert's Rules of Poker available at each home tourney.

[elwoodblues]

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My friend is confused

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That is a gross understatement.

Unless you can agree on the principle rules, the game just isn't going to be a good time. Tell him that you won't come back until he writes down his home rules, otherwise Hoyle or Roberts Rules of Poker apply. Encourage the other people in the group to do the same.

So long as he isn't hosting (and can claim "home rules") having him play in the game is probably a good thing --- easy money.

[LargeFarva]

Aaron,
I've been involved in a very simular situation. Playing at a fiends house, he and his roommate were involved in a hand. At the showdown, board has 10c, Ad, Jh, Kh, 8s. Both players showed K high pair, both with low (4,5) kickers. As u play the 5 best cards, u're kicker wouldn't matter (obviously...or so I thought). The man with 5 insisted his kicker won the pot for him, and refused to listen that you only count the kicker to make the best hand. He took the pot, cheating his roommate. I decided I wouldn't play at his place anymore, where he was in control of the game. I have no problem letting him play at my place,(hasn't happend yet, tho) but he'll have to follow my (the correct) rules.

But that's just me...

[jacksfull]

Bonehead,

There's no such thing as Robert's Rules of Poker. It's Robert's Rules of Order.

Try Hoyle's Rules of Games.

[kiemo]

Does this friend also claim he wins on 789TJ board if he is holding a 6 and another holds a Q

[Sundevils21]

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Bonehead,

There's no such thing as Robert's Rules of Poker. It's Robert's Rules of Order.

Try Hoyle's Rules of Games.

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This was your first post? Can we continue to expect this level of high quality?
you can't start calling people names until you have more than 1 post. sorry

[dandy_don]

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Bonehead,

There's no such thing as Robert's Rules of Poker. It's Robert's Rules of Order.


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I sure use a "Robert's Rules of Poker" at my games. I copied it from www.homepokertourney.com

[demonx5]

At my poker games in college this past semester we've encountered a number of strange claims like the ones you all have outlined. I believe that standard rules of poker apply unquestionably. The only things I change for house rules are matters of betting (even blinds, little/big blinds, etc.) And I don't tolerate sketchy play. However, there is a simple explanation for why these people think they are winners (with the null kicker, ace-high flush vs king-high flush) and it's a quote by a person who I cannot recall at the moment but it goes like this:

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Poker is like sex. Everybody thinks they're a pro, but nobody knows what they're doing.

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So there you have it. Insist that unless you're playing with a professional, they must adhere to common sense and practical gambling standards. (Which isn't to say professionals don't - they strictly follow the rules, guidelines and etiquette of poker.)

[Drac]

This flush stupidity seems to be an epidemic. I played 7 stud recently with people that claimed if you have an A hight diamond flush and I have an A high club flush it's a split pot. Don't look at the next card in order, you both have an ace so it's a tie. What a bunch of maroons (yes, that is maroon, not moron).