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Old 06-11-2004, 08:23 PM
Soviet Exile Soviet Exile is offline
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Default Was My Fold to a Strong Play Too Weak?

This is from a live game so I don't have as much detail as you all are used to, but here goes. Typical $3/6 California-style game, although on the tighter side.

I am dealt KK in middle position. One caller in front of me. I raise. CO calls as does button. BB calls. EP caller calls.

Flop comes QQ3 rainbow. BB and EP check. I bet. CO calls, button folds, BB calls, and EP folds.

A six comes to complete the rainbow. BB checks, I bet, CO calls, and BB raises. I stew for a while and fold. CO folds.

I did not have a particularly good read on the big blind, but my impression was that he was a solid player. He'd won a couple of pots with decent holdings. I smelled something. Check raise on the turn here is a strong play. I don't like drawing to two-outers. (I of course felt better when the CO folded, as he'd been in the game longer than I had and probably knew the BB's tendencies, although I would of preferred he called the BB down.)

Would you have called and check-called the river? Is it possible the BB is bluffing? I don't see this type of second level bluff often in these games, but perhaps he was giving me a little test as he'd never seen me before. If so, I failed (or passed depending on one's perspective).

I suppose there is something to be said for a raise here. If he has two pair, he might lay it down, and, if he has a Q, he'd either reraise or call and check the river.
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Old 06-12-2004, 12:36 AM
pokerjo22 pokerjo22 is offline
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Default Re: Was My Fold to a Strong Play Too Weak?

I suppose it depends on the type of player. If you didn't have a good read on him, then he probably didn't have a good read on you. Unless he thought you were the kind of player who would fold a pocket pair to a turn raise he wouldn't make a stone cold bluff. Most people would check call to the river with this raise, making a bluff unlikely. I think you made a good fold.
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