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Old 05-18-2004, 02:44 AM
me454555 me454555 is offline
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Default Not sure how I played this flop

Party Poker 1/2 (10 handed)

No particular reads on anyone b/c they haven't done anything too interesting since I sat down.

Hero has 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and is Button

MP2 limps, CO limps, Hero limps, SB limps, UTG checks

Flop(5 SB): T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB checks, UTG bets, MP2 raises, CO calls, Hero folds, SB folds, UTG folds

I'm not really sure how I played this. After a bet and a raise, I was afraid my flush outs might not be good. I was getting 5:1 on the imidiate bet + implied odds but the bet and raise, scared me away from getting trapped.

Turn(5 BB): 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

MP2 checks, CO bets, MP2 calls

River(7 BB): 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

MP2 checks, CO bets, MP2 calls

Comments and critiques appreciated
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Old 05-18-2004, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: Not sure how I played this flop

Fold pre flop, with 2 limpers you arnt really getting the oddds to play a hand like this.

What flop were you waiting for? 456 of hearts? You got your flush draw, play it. Generally a flush draw doesnt raise to shut out the entire field, so I dunno why the raise made you think flush draw.
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Old 05-18-2004, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Not sure how I played this flop

I disagree that this is a fold PF.

Once you get that flop, you are going to the river.

Allan
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Old 05-18-2004, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: Not sure how I played this flop

I'm weak, but there's no way I fold that hand in that spot getting 5:1.
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Old 05-18-2004, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: Not sure how I played this flop

Why fold pre? Because he's not getting enough odds to call? His excellent position doesn't turn this hand into a limp?
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Old 05-18-2004, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Not sure how I played this flop

pf limp is fine. Flop fold is horrible, IMO.

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I was getting 5:1 on the imidiate bet + implied odds but the bet and raise, scared me away from getting trapped.

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I would be almost hoping to get trapped on the flop with 3 opponents. The raise gives you absolutely no reason to believe your flush would not be good. Besides that, two of the higher hearts are already on the board, including the Ace.
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Old 05-18-2004, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: Not sure how I played this flop

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After a bet and a raise, I was afraid my flush outs might not be good. I was getting 5:1 on the imidiate bet + implied odds but the bet and raise, scared me away from getting trapped.

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Which outs were you worried about? Are you saying that you were afraid that you were up against a higher flush draw? There are exactly 4 cards in the deck that can give someone a higher flush draw. most likely you are up against some high cards (top pair, two pair, etc). I would ever argue that you should raise in your position for value.

You can't be scared and play good poker, especially on the flop.

Your pre-flop call is fine.
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Old 05-18-2004, 11:43 AM
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I was afraid my flush outs might not be good.

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why play 87s in the first place? you *might* be up against a higher flush draw....but you flopped a draw for your hand.... don't get rid of it now.
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Old 05-18-2004, 11:46 AM
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Why fold pre? Because he's not getting enough odds to call? His excellent position doesn't turn this hand into a limp?

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This hand plays best multyway, he's only got 2 people in the hand with him, the BB will make 3. He could very easily end up with a draw on the turn and not even have the pot odds to call it. Where is you're cut off, are you playing 34s in this spot?
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Old 05-18-2004, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: Not sure how I played this flop

This was a textbook limp according the hepfap
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