string raise?

[bdypdx]

I think a string raise is usually more of a tell than announcing a raise. It seems that most often, the string raiser is an inexperienced player and definitely has a hand when they do it. I also think that complaining about a string raise is more of an "angle shoot" than the string raise itself; as the player complaining is using a technicality to see the flop (or next card) cheaply.

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bdy

[spike]

Some people just *love* to enforce rules!

A guy in the casino the other night called a misdeal for some reason. I forget his exact reasoning... but there was some discussion at the table about whether it was a misdeal or not... he was adamant and forceful in his opinion and so eventually a misdeal was agreed and everyone looked at their cards before tossing them back to the dealer.

The guy who called the misdeal found he had been dealt AA.

[LetsRock]

No. People who string raise are shooting angles.

Yes, most string raises are done by newbies who don't know any better, but if you don't enforce the rules against them, how can you enforce the rules against someone who would be string raising to gain information?

[MRBAA]

I don't feel calling a string raise is shooting an angle. You're right, it's generally an honest mistake, but it's still against the rules. I see it as using the rules to your advantage, which is not angle shooting in my book. That said, I would rarely call it on a new player just as a matter of courtesy. Similar to to how I hate the use of the "I want to see that hand" rule in situtions where collusion is not an issue. One tell I've seen recently from several new players is trying to bet $8 on a $4 round in a 4/8 game when they have a strong hand. btw, I'll be at the club Wed. (tomorrow), maybe I'll see you there.

[arfsananto]

So, if you wouldn't call the new player on it, would you somehow pull them aside and tell them?
I guess my question is, if they don't get called on it, how will they find out its wrong?

[MRBAA]

If I"m sitting near them and they seem like an okay person, I'd probably just tell them. Often the dealer will say something -- or another player. Eventually, someone will call it, probably sooner rather than later, so they'll learn.

[deacsoft]

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No. People who string raise are shooting angles.

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The people who string raise with the intention of gaining information or just overall do it knowingly are angle shooing. Not just anyone who places a string bet. Accidents do happen.

I must state that I have never seen this done and this entire topic started over a THEORY of mine. I do recomend this type of play to anyone and discourage the use of angle shooting altogether.

[deacsoft]

Well stated.

[deacsoft]

The dealer is resopnsible for a calling players on string bets. They are going to overlook it sometimes. In the event that a dealer does not notice a string bet it is the responsibility of the other players at the table to inform the dealer. No one likes to do but someone must. It certainly is NOT angle shooting to inform the dealer that another player has just made an ILLEGAL bet. I say just let the dealer know and the dealer will explain to the player who placed the string bet why it is illegal and what he/she can do to avoid it.

[LetsRock]

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I would rarely call it on a new player just as a matter of courtesy.

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I will usually inform the newbie that "that particular move may have been construed as a string raise..." and explain to him what the rules are. Depending on the setting, I may or may not enforce the rule, but I do try to educate for their own good.