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#1
04-14-2004, 04:04 PM
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Rules of Hold \'em
If a player says, out of turn, that he will bet a certain amount, must that player put in that specific amount?
E.g. It is Player 1's turn, but Player 2 says that he is going to raise $x, but is out of turn. Must Player 2 raise that $x? 
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#2
04-14-2004, 04:40 PM
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Re: Rules of Hold \'em
I suppose the rules are upto the casino, but I think in most cases anouncing a bet/raise is binding to prevent angle shooting.
If he is allowed to not bet then he gains an advantage becasue player 1 may not bet hands he was planning on betting (either becasue he was gonna bluff or now wants to checkraise) and allow player 2 to check behind if he wanted a free card.
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#3
04-14-2004, 08:38 PM
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Re: Rules of Hold \'em
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If a player says, out of turn, that he will bet a certain amount, must that player put in that specific amount? E.g. It is Player 1's turn, but Player 2 says that he is going to raise $x, but is out of turn. Must Player 2 raise that $x? [/ QUOTE ] I was at Foxwoods this weekend for my first real poker experience. Two guys at the table constantly acted out of turn. The dealer would always tell them to wait till the action was on them but if they would try to raise out of turn that was never binding. In one instance the action was on the guy to my right, but the guy on left acted out of turn and said bet. The guy on my right just shook his head and checked letting the guy on my left bet. Funny thing is when the action got back around to the guy on my right he raised. So now the guy on my left actually could have hurt himself by acting out of turn. Always be careful to wait till it is your turn so that you don't give information to your opponents. Also if someone acts out of turn you should use their action to help decide what you want to do.
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#4
04-15-2004, 10:22 AM
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Re: Rules of Hold \'em
The last time I was at Bellagio, there was an incident about this rule. Heads up on the river, the button tried to bet out of turn. The other player put out his chips as if to call and the button RAISED. They called the floor, and he stated that the rule at Bellagio is that an out of turn bet is binding unless someone else bets before the action gets to the player. He also said that the other player's bet 'relieved' the button from his out of turn bet.
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#5
04-15-2004, 12:07 PM
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Re: Rules of Hold \'em
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The last time I was at Bellagio, there was an incident about this rule. Heads up on the river, the button tried to bet out of turn. The other player put out his chips as if to call and the button RAISED. They called the floor, and he stated that the rule at Bellagio is that an out of turn bet is binding unless someone else bets before the action gets to the player. He also said that the other player's bet 'relieved' the button from his out of turn bet. [/ QUOTE ] If I understand you correctly, the floorman allowed the button to raise?? If that's the case, couldn't a string raise be called??
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#6
04-15-2004, 03:21 PM
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Re: Rules of Hold \'em
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If I understand you correctly, the floorman allowed the button to raise?? If that's the case, couldn't a string raise be called?? [/ QUOTE ] Yep, the reasoning being that when the other player 'bet', the button was released of any forced action. I guess he could have folded if he wanted to once the other player bet.
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#7
04-22-2004, 01:29 PM
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Re: Rules of Hold \'em
The act of betting out of turn is really annoying. I feel that the following procedure should be imposed:
First offense: warning Second offense: the offenders is nullified and the offender's raising privilages are revoked for the hand and can only call or fold. Every offense thereafter: The offender must place the proposed bet as a penalty (ie no one has to call this bet) and must fold the hand... I think that would do a lot to curtail this behavior.
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