Long shot hits, too passive?

[rivered]

I was playing $2/4 at Pacific, VERY loose and passive table. I called 22 UTG. This is because there was so many people in every hand. This isn't a play I make often but at this type of table flopping a set can pay huge.

Preflop: I'm UTG with 22
MP2 raises and 7 people call in total.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 players)
I check, MP2 raises and one player folds (may have been 2 fold but not many)

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
I check again, MP2 bets and 1 more folds, the rest call.

River: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
I check, MP2 bets, 2 call and I call (one player folds).
SB checks, slavic checks.

Final Pot: 19BB.


I hadn't seen the raiser be aggressive before this hand and certainly not any preflop raises. I loved the flop of course and with this many players in I don't think waiting until the river for a check raise is that bad. Most of these players are drawing dead and if they aren't, trust me, they aren't folding. So I'm not knocking anyone out who'll beat me on the river. I'm only taking out people who will call another river bet. The thing I was worried about was the raiser. I figured he either had AA, KK, QQ or maybe AK (although I figured against KK when the second K came up). I'm thinking I should have raised anyways but the board was very dangerous. I also figured that if, since there was one caller behind me, he may call. If I raise, he won't and most likedly MP2 is raising me back and everyone else folds. So, unless he has AK I'm paying 2 bets extra to him.

Results in white:

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[Tosh]

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[bisonbison]

Dear sweet jesus, if you're not going to bet the flop, check-raise the turn. If you're not going to check-raise the turn, checkraise the river.

If you're not going to play sets aggressively, you should not be playing 2/4.

[Haupt_234]

Is there a typo here? Why aren't you betting?!?

Charity is just about the only better donation...

Haupt_234

[bernie]

Let me see if i have this right. 7 opponents see flop and you flop a set. You know theyll call multiple bets to the river. So you....

....dont bet!?!

This has to be one of the worst plays from flop to river ive seen in awhile. You left a ton of chips on the table on this one.

Im sure slavic appreciates this type of play at his table. I wish it would happen much more on mine.

Ugh.

b

btw....ever hear of a value bet?

[Bob T.]

Long shot hits, too passive?

Yes.

For the time being, I recommend that you stop playing 22 UTG. Not because it isn't playable in these games, but because you aren't going to be paid well enough when you do hit it, if this is how you usually play sets.

Good luck,
play well,

Bob T.

[pudley4]

Wait until the action is on you, then click "bet/raise". Then close your eyes. Wait until you hear the beep that announces it's your action again. Open your eyes and click "bet/raise". Close your eyes and wait. Repeat until you notice it's the river. If someone has bet into you, then call. If no one has bet, then bet and call a raise.

In the long run, playing it this way you'll come out ahead vs playing it the way you did on this hand.

[Bob T.]

Only use pudley's suggestion if you are playing one table. If you are playing two or more, make sure you are playing the correct table before employing this plan.

Good luck,
play well,

Bob T.

[sfer]

Won't that be a tell if I'm playing live?

[James Boston]

Be in there betting and raising, not checking and calling. A set, especially one that small, is better off winning the pot immediately. Slowplaying is too risky.