Your generic "Raise this river?" post - but reply anyway!

[joker122]

No good reads an any of them except MP1, who's PF% was undoubtedly 100.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold 'Em (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (11 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

It's very possible MP2 has JK or J8, but I don't know how likely. What's your play on this river?

[Chaos_ult]

You've got to raise the river here. You're missing bets by just calling.

Just my two cents.

[jasonlk]

You only had the opportunity to raise once pre-flop, so they're probably not going to give you credit for AA. All kinds of hands will pay you off here. So, you knew it was coming - raise the river!

[ninja please]

heads up i'd probably raise, but with MP1 tagging along behind, i'd say a call might be right. unless you knew MP1 could be counted on to call 2 bets more here. but if you just call, you'll get an additional bet out of MP1, as well as saving yourself 2 bets the times MP2 really did stick around with KJ (not that unlikely, in my experience party 2/4 players will often play any 4-to-braodway hand as if it were an open-ended draw).

could be i'm too weak here, but two things i don't like: 1)a party cs waking up on the river 2)driving out a different party cs who would have called otherwise

[joker122]

MP1 had Ax (no surprise there) and MP2 had TT for a set of tens and MHIG. I definatly did not consider a rivered set.

Two interesting points were brought to my attention by Ninja and Chaos. The fact that MP1 might not call 2 bets and that I could be re-raised by MP2 makes calling the correct play. It definatly is +EV in the long run if you really think about it. On the other hand Chaos noted that it would be hard for them to put me on AA since I hadn't gotten the chance to put in a raise save for preflop. Still, I think calling was correct. Thanks guys, great advice.

[HajiShirazu]

Knowing that MP1 was super-loose I would raise the river every time here. You're going to see AT or something a lot more often than a hand that beats you. Also, if he had the straight, I would think he would go for the checkraise. Usually when I am bet into on a river like this it means that somebody improved their hand but are afraid to C/R because they think you might 3-bet.